Must you be black to be a regional head of the NAACP?

[Boomhauer]

I just dislike any fraudulent means to bootstrap oneself into the position. 

Remember we are talking about the NAACP here. Not exactly a reputable organization in any sense of the word. Race pimpin' ain't easy!

[zahc]

At the company I used to work for, there were many diversity initiatives. The much celebrated and awarded Hispanic ringleader was white with red hair and freckles. He spoke English with no accent, but he probably was literally Hispanic insofar as he probably hailed from a Spanish-speaking country. I just personally could not with a straight face claim Hispanic in such a capacity with that phenotype. Then again, if I had the cred, maybe I would decide to troll them after all. It's too bad for me that "eastern European and Irish" isn't an ethnicity with clubs.

[Doggy Daddy]

I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm *expletive deleted*ing retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

So, you'll be running for president of the Rotary Club?

[Scout26]

She should have just quoted Navin R. Johnson,  "I was born a poor black child..."



It made it all the way to page 2 before someone quoted that.....You people are slipping...

[230RN]

Buried deep in my memory is a recollection that when pressed some government official said that the only qualification needed to obtain Hispanic Protected Minority status was an Hispanic-sounding name.

I wondered if "Bosnolovichez" would have worked.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Buried deep in my memory is a recollection that when pressed some government official said that the only qualification needed to obtain Hispanic Protected Minority status was an Hispanic-sounding name.

I wondered if "Bosnolovichez" would have worked.

Yup one of my dad's coworkers changed his name to Hernandez during the era when " Hispanic surname" mattered.


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[KD5NRH]

Was he accepted as African-American? If not, on what basis could they have possibly refused to recognize what he clearly is?

I know at least one judge insisted that he be recognized as such.  Seems a potential employer mentioned that he wouldn't be considered because he lied about his race on the application, so he sued.

[birdman]

So I was thinking, and obviously im not going to FB this, but I wanted to hash it out.

So, this woman is "not black" (at least no more than 1/64th based on history)
Our president is black (one parent was)
George Zimmerman is "not black" (but he is at least 1/16th, since great grandfather was)

So:
1. What fraction is required to be referred to as black?

2. Does anyone else think this is $@@/&:);ing insane?. Are we seriously going back to a modified one-drop rule?   How is that a good thing?

What ARE the rules?
Zimmerman is "white Hispanic" but not black.
I can't refer to Obama as white?  Because it seems, unless we are going back in time, that that is just as accurate as saying he's black, or calling Zimmerman white...or calling zimmerman Hispanic.

Or is it "whatever you identify as", in which case...doesn't that make orange lady black? (Though, legally, self-identification is how it actually works)
Or is it some nebulous "priviledge" thing...where you are only a minority if you are treated worse, by your own judgement, at some point, ever, by a "majority" person.

I really don't want to live on this planet anymore.

[birdman]

I know at least one judge insisted that he be recognized as such.  Seems a potential employer mentioned that he wouldn't be considered because he lied about his race on the application, so he sued.

And won I would hope.  Precedent says you are whatever you claim to be on a form.  And it's only not legal, or actionable if you change it (at least without new knowledge)...and change it when you are not politically correct. (I.e. Are majority white, but claim black to get something).

Of course....that means that (and there is more than enough evidence) that a mixed race person can claim whatever they want...and provided they are the right appearance, our PC media won't care.

MLK must be rolling over in his grave...not only have we basically brought back one-drop, but we absolutely jidge people by the color of their skin...and people don't even feel bad about it.

[BlueStarLizzard]

So I was thinking, and obviously im not going to FB this, but I wanted to hash it out.

So, this woman is "not black" (at least no more than 1/64th based on history)
Our president is black (one parent was)
George Zimmerman is "not black" (but he is at least 1/16th, since great grandfather was)

So:
1. What fraction is required to be referred to as black?

2. Does anyone else think this is $@@/&:);ing insane?. Are we seriously going back to a modified one-drop rule?   How is that a good thing?

What ARE the rules?
Zimmerman is "white Hispanic" but not black.
I can't refer to Obama as white?  Because it seems, unless we are going back in time, that that is just as accurate as saying he's black, or calling Zimmerman white...or calling zimmerman Hispanic.

Or is it "whatever you identify as", in which case...doesn't that make orange lady black? (Though, legally, self-identification is how it actually works)
Or is it some nebulous "priviledge" thing...where you are only a minority if you are treated worse, by your own judgement, at some point, ever, by a "majority" person.

I really don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Trying to make sense of something that is senseless is pretty much the fast road to crazy town.

[Sergeant Bob]

I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of soaring over the oilfields dropping hot sticky loads on disgusting foreigners. People say to me that a person being a helicopter is Impossible and I'm *expletive deleted*ing retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a plastic surgeon install rotary blades, 30 mm cannons and AMG-114 Hellfire missiles on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Apache" and respect my right to kill from above and kill needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a heliphobe and need to check your vehicle privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.

I guffawed!!!!!

[Sergeant Bob]

The only reason the NALCP (National Association of Liberal Colored People) is supporting her is they don't want to look like idiots!

[BobR]

But the more they support her, the more idiotic they look. It's a wonderful spiral they have gotten themselves into.

bob

[Chuck Dye]

1. What fraction is required to be referred to as black?...Are we seriously going back to a modified one-drop rule?

I think the phrase you are looking for is "the slightest touch of the tar brush."

I discovered, nearly the hard way, that one must be careful of his audience or very sure of his escape route before pointing out to racist black golf fans that Tiger Woods is the worlds most famous Thai-American. (Couldn't find a "feets don't fail me now!" smiley...)

[LadySmith]

This is a twist on the whole "passing" thing.
For those who don't know, "passing" was when light-skinned Blacks used to pass for white back in the days of segregation.

But the more they support her, the more idiotic they look. It's a wonderful spiral they have gotten themselves into.
bob

Ain't that the truth. 

MLK must be rolling over in his grave...not only have we basically brought back one-drop, but we absolutely judge people by the color of their skin...and people don't even feel bad about it.

And that there's another truth. 

[French G.]

So I was thinking, and obviously im not going to FB this, but I wanted to hash it out.

So, this woman is "not black" (at least no more than 1/64th based on history)
Our president is black (one parent was)
George Zimmerman is "not black" (but he is at least 1/16th, since great grandfather was)

So:
1. What fraction is required to be referred to as black?

2. Does anyone else think this is $@@/&:);ing insane?. Are we seriously going back to a modified one-drop rule?   How is that a good thing?

What ARE the rules?
Zimmerman is "white Hispanic" but not black.
I can't refer to Obama as white?  Because it seems, unless we are going back in time, that that is just as accurate as saying he's black, or calling Zimmerman white...or calling zimmerman Hispanic.

Or is it "whatever you identify as", in which case...doesn't that make orange lady black? (Though, legally, self-identification is how it actually works)
Or is it some nebulous "priviledge" thing...where you are only a minority if you are treated worse, by your own judgement, at some point, ever, by a "majority" person.

I really don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Pretty much all that. I think I'm going to be black and run the NAACP around here. Our family is about 90% sure we'd fail the one drop test, you don't stay in Virginia for 350 some years without something happening. Best guess is that someone passed into white society.

This is just hyphenated America run amok. If there was no preferential treatment for some people this lady would have gotten a real job by now.

I wish more people would answer the "what are you?" with "American." Any other answer is pointless except as small talk at a party about how fascinating your lineage is.

I recently realized that based on my maternal grandfather and paternal grandmother that I am 50% Scottish. Obviously I knew these things, especially since my grandfather was first generation American, but never really bothered to connect. So far no urges to go to highland games or buy William Wallace collector swords. If wherever you identify with coming from was so great then simple. Return there. If not, it is American.

[roo_ster]

"Blackness Confirmed"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_IJCpZfrPA

[Perd Hapley]

Two weeks ago, we were celebrating a man for calling himself a woman. Why is everyone so surprised that a white person would call herself black?

"Blackness Confirmed"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_IJCpZfrPA

No, they're using a different method:

http://twitchy.com/2015/06/12/as-the-naacp-stands-behind-racheldolezal-blacktwitter-slams-with-hilarious-askrachel-questions/

My favorite:

Mary J Blige doesn't want hateration or holleration in where?
A) Her home
B) At work
C) In cars
D) This Dancery

[BlueStarLizzard]

Pretty much all that. I think I'm going to be black and run the NAACP around here. Our family is about 90% sure we'd fail the one drop test, you don't stay in Virginia for 350 some years without something happening. Best guess is that someone passed into white society.

This is just hyphenated America run amok. If there was no preferential treatment for some people this lady would have gotten a real job by now.

I wish more people would answer the "what are you?" with "American." Any other answer is pointless except as small talk at a party about how fascinating your lineage is.

I recently realized that based on my maternal grandfather and paternal grandmother that I am 50% Scottish. Obviously I knew these things, especially since my grandfather was first generation American, but never really bothered to connect. So far no urges to go to highland games or buy William Wallace collector swords. If wherever you identify with coming from was so great then simple. Return there. If not, it is American.

On my fathers side it's pretty straight forward Swede. But my mother's family? Ha! There is a reason I just say we're good old American mutts. The basic stock is English, but I'm pretty sure we've got links back to every European that flocked to American shores.

I got in a tiff with a Sociology professor by wanting to reclassify certain American subcultures as American ethnicities. I think that Appalachian certainly qualifies.

[MillCreek]

There was going to be a Spokane chapter meeting tomorrow at which all would be explained. 

Ms. Dolezal cancelled the meeting though:  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/14/spokane-naacp-president-ethnicity-questions/71215210/

Perhaps the lawyers and PR experts do not work on the weekend.

[Hawkmoon]

She just needs more time to get her story straight. And to figure out a way to explain why she's been claiming her brother as her son.

As they used to say in da hood, "Good luck wit dat."

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

If someone figures out a way to spin outa this remember their name and hire them


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[RoadKingLarry]

The only reason the NALCP (National Association of Liberal Colored People) is supporting her is they don't want to look like idiots!

Way, way too late.

[lee n. field]

So I was thinking, and obviously im not going to FB this, but I wanted to hash it out.

So, this woman is "not black" (at least no more than 1/64th based on history)
Our president is black (one parent was)
George Zimmerman is "not black" (but he is at least 1/16th, since great grandfather was)

So:
1. What fraction is required to be referred to as black?

2. Does anyone else think this is $@@/&:);ing insane?. Are we seriously going back to a modified one-drop rule?   How is that a good thing?

Of course it is.  Since "race" is far more a social and political thing, than a biological one.

[MillCreek]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/15/414655045/rachel-dolezal-resigns-as-president-of-spokane-naacp?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20150615

So that is why this evening's chapter meeting was cancelled: Ms. Dolezal was buffing and polishing her resignation letter.