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Stupid that hurts.
« on: June 30, 2015, 06:38:06 PM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/06/29/i-love-my-guns-but-i-hate-the-nra/?tid=sm_fb

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In the mid-1990s, I went to New Orleans for the wedding celebration of a charismatic young couple committed to filmmaking and music, community health care, veganism and spreading joy everywhere they went. I knew them only slightly, but I was there as a guest of a close mutual friend. It was a joyous, slightly unhinged all-night affair with costumes, music and a parade that ended at  the banks of the Mississippi. It was unforgettable for the right reasons, and it’s unforgettable for a horrific reason.

One morning in 2007, as she let the cat out before daybreak, the bride, Helen Hill, faced the scenario that gun nuts dream about. As she stepped outside early one morning, she came face-to-face with an intruder. She had time only to scream a warning to her husband and child. Then she was dead.

Gun advocates will say that if she’d owned a gun, she would have survived. But in truth, the only way she possibly could have survived was to live in her own home with a gun on her hip, like a character in a Mad Max movie. To conjure such an image of this particular woman is obscene. Only a suspicious and hostile person would choose to live this way.

It just hurts.

And call me Max.
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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2015, 07:03:16 PM »
I self-identify as suspicious and hostile  =)
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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2015, 07:41:08 PM »
"Better Dead Than Thinking Ahead"

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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2015, 08:18:28 PM »
If she had owned a gun, but was still the sort of person described, she would still probably be dead.
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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2015, 08:37:17 PM »
I guess I am beyond hostile since there are firearms liberally scattered through the house and I greet any uninvited "guests" while armed.

Butbutbutbut he hunts and skeet shoots, that makes him an expert on firearms and self defense!


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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2015, 08:40:55 PM »
Some years back i had trouble with a guy who was part of a group that scared me. A cop was at the house and observed my precautions. I told him i was paranoid he said " we call that cautious"


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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2015, 09:34:36 PM »
Some years back i had trouble with a guy who was part of a group that scared me. A cop was at the house and observed my precautions. I told him i was paranoid he said " we call that cautious"


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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2015, 10:14:48 PM »
If she had owned a gun, but was still the sort of person described, she would still probably be dead.

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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2015, 10:22:37 PM »
The spew of "guns will not save you even if you have one, and besides it will probably be taken away from you" is just typical spew from folks who do not know what they are talking about except for the fact that they have an agenda to meet.

It sucks that it was her day to be the bug and not the windshield.

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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2015, 10:29:59 PM »
The thing some gun owners forget, and leftists pick up on readily, is that we still can't prevent every tragedy.  Being surprised in the night while wearing a gun, she'd possibly have been just as dead.
*expletive deleted*it happens.  Some of us would like to mitigate that risk.
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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2015, 12:03:14 AM »
Some of us would like to mitigate that risk.

But it's obscene man, obscene! Like Mad Max, I tells ya!
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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2015, 12:17:48 AM »
The thing some gun owners forget, and leftists pick up on readily, is that we still can't prevent every tragedy.  Being surprised in the night while wearing a gun, she'd possibly have been just as dead.
*expletive deleted*it happens.  Some of us would like to mitigate that risk.
Some gun owners may forget it, but I think leftists obsess about it.  If one time out of a million, the gun owner is killed, then it just can't be done.  For stuff they want, that logic never applies.  For other stuff, if it can't be perfect, you can't do it.
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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2015, 12:32:17 AM »
The spew of "guns will not save you even if you have one, and besides it will probably be taken away from you" is just typical spew from folks who do not know what they are talking about except for the fact that they have an agenda to meet.
A gun isn't a magic talisman that makes the person who wields it immune from harm . . . it's a tool that tips the odds back in the targeted person's favor by some amount, depending on the exact circumstances and the person's ability and awareness.

Any advantage it gives you is a good thing.
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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2015, 12:37:46 AM »
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A gun isn't a magic talisman that makes the person who wields it immune from harm . . . it's a tool that tips the odds back in the targeted person's favor by some amount, depending on the exact circumstances and the person's ability and awareness.

Any advantage it gives you is a good thing.

Perfect !

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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2015, 05:48:32 PM »
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/06/30/gun-shaped-phone-case/

This seems to tie in with stupidity should hurt.
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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2015, 07:15:46 PM »
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/06/30/gun-shaped-phone-case/

This seems to tie in with stupidity should hurt.

You mean the stupid cases, or the idiot who wants to ban them? Both kinds of stupidity hurt my fine, clean brain.*


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Re: Stupid that hurts.
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2015, 07:31:35 PM »
If she had owned a gun, but was still the sort of person described, she would still probably be dead.

Cruising the neighborhood on street view, I was thinking "gee, what a great place to be if you need some crack...either kind."  Looks like the sort of place you could score some sort of illegal product or service cheaply at more houses than not.