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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #50 on: May 16, 2017, 02:04:54 AM »
Probably down at Ft. Sam Houston, in the same unit with Bergdahl....

What'd that CO do to deserve such animosity from you??

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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #51 on: May 16, 2017, 02:36:54 PM »
I think the man is crazy and a traitor, but even I think that mutilation is a punishment beyond the pale.



I'm pretty sure you're being snarky, but he was referring to Manning's elective surgery...
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2017, 10:22:36 PM »
What'd that CO do to deserve such animosity from you??

Not me but he must have really screwed the pooch* to deserve those two.  I'm sure he's the Charles Atlas of his Senior Rater's Profile.



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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2017, 10:35:56 PM »
Not me but he must have really screwed the pooch* to deserve those two.  I'm sure he's the Charles Atlas of his Senior Rater's Profile.



(At one point in time Baumholder had two Field Artillery Captains as OIC's of the Golf Course.  While in command of two separate Batteries they sent rounds out of safety.  One Battery damn near killed a group of Friendlies on the 100M long Range 4 and the other Battery decided to blast a German farmer's field off post.   Whoops...)



That's bad but not nearly as bad as the Marine 1st LT who decided to do a fire mission on a small herd of elk crossing the range @ Ft Sill with their 155mm cannon. I worked with the OIC's wife at a local hospital at the time. That poor 1st Lt didn't even have time to stop at the golf course on his way out the door. ;)

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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #54 on: May 17, 2017, 09:20:05 AM »
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/17/chelsea-manning-freed-from-kansas-military-prison.html

Well the special little snowflake is now a "free" it.  The US Army released it at 2 am this morning.

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An Army spokeswoman, Lt. Col. Jennifer Johnson, said Manning will be on "excess leave" while her court-martial conviction is under appellate review.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #55 on: May 17, 2017, 11:06:01 AM »
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An Army spokeswoman, Lt. Col. Jennifer Johnson, said Manning will be on "excess leave" while her court-martial conviction is under appellate review.


Something is rotten in Denmark, as though we didn't already know that. The last time I checked you could only carry over 60 days of leave in the military. So does this mean he has to report for duty somewhere after 60 days and why would he accrue leave while in custody? I would figure in prison he forfeited all pay, allowances and privileges including leave accrual. If, and that is a big if, he wins his appeal then he *may* get some of that leave back but I would only give him up to 60 days.

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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2017, 11:10:03 AM »

Something is rotten in Denmark, as though we didn't already know that. The last time I checked you could only carry over 60 days of leave in the military. So does this mean he has to report for duty somewhere after 60 days and why would he accrue leave while in custody? I would figure in prison he forfeited all pay, allowances and privileges including leave accrual. If, and that is a big if, he wins his appeal then he *may* get some of that leave back but I would only give him up to 60 days.

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Interesting choice of words since like you said, shouldn't have any leave unless it was from before the shitbird was confined.  But then again IMHO that should've been forfeited upon conviction.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2017, 11:24:58 AM »
Excess Leave is granted by the commander when they don't want the service member to show up, but they haven't figured out how, or if, they will successfully kick them out.  It's uncharged leave.

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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #58 on: May 17, 2017, 11:34:18 AM »
Excess Leave is granted by the commander when they don't want the service member to show up, but they haven't figured out how, or if, they will successfully kick them out.  It's uncharged leave.

Well I do believe a conviction and dishonorable discharge has already done that.  The appeal process should've already ran its course so you wouldn't have to give shitbirds like this anything else.

I guess now the only hope for justice is that the snowflake winds up with buyer's remorse after having its manhood removed.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #59 on: May 17, 2017, 11:57:46 AM »
Well I do believe a conviction and dishonorable discharge has already done that.  The appeal process should've already ran its course so you wouldn't have to give shitbirds like this anything else.

I guess now the only hope for justice is that the snowflake winds up with buyer's remorse after having its manhood removed.

I don't believe he's been discharged yet.  He would have still been enlisted for the whole confinement and the Army's not going to do anything until the appeal is finalized.  So he's still an Active Duty soldier.  Hence the leave.

How long, do you suppose, before he runs afoul of the UCMJ again?

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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2017, 01:23:42 PM »
I don't believe he's been discharged yet.  He would have still been enlisted for the whole confinement and the Army's not going to do anything until the appeal is finalized.  So he's still an Active Duty soldier.  Hence the leave.

How long, do you suppose, before he runs afoul of the UCMJ again?

IT will probably have their own private handler just as Bergdahl does.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #61 on: May 17, 2017, 01:47:19 PM »
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The Army said that while Manning is being assigned to Oklahoma's Fort Sill, she doesn't need to report for duty there, meaning she has discretion about where she lives.

Too bad, I thought we had a couple of people here from that area, they could help him get settled and such.

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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #62 on: May 17, 2017, 01:51:46 PM »
Too bad, I thought we had a couple of people here from that area, they could help him get settled and such.

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That would make sense to assign it their, being the closest active duty Army base to its home of record.  If on "leave" as long as the Army has a way to reach a Soldier and they don't plan on going to restricted countries, they aren't obligated to stay on the assigned base.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #63 on: May 17, 2017, 07:14:44 PM »
Hmmm ...

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"Because of the nature of her circumstances and the experience of confinement, she is very committed to living her life as free from the government as possible and taking care of her own health benefits and financial needs, separate and apart from the continued benefits available to her," attorney Chase Strangio said.

Considering that IT is basically unfit for anything and essentially unemployable, I would like to know how she IT is going to take care of her ITs own health benefits and financial needs. Unless ITs parents are independently wealthy, I suspect this means that IT will just mooch off the liberal bed-wetters rather than mooching off the government.

Which is fine by me. They basically created IT, so they should support IT.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #64 on: May 18, 2017, 09:58:31 AM »
Considering that IT is basically unfit for anything and essentially unemployable,

Ah, so a life coach.  Probably even write a book about life coaching.

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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #65 on: May 18, 2017, 03:59:50 PM »
Hmmm ...

Considering that IT is basically unfit for anything and essentially unemployable, I would like to know how she IT is going to take care of her ITs own health benefits and financial needs. Unless ITs parents are independently wealthy, I suspect this means that IT will just mooch off the liberal bed-wetters rather than mooching off the government.

Which is fine by me. They basically created IT, so they should support IT.

You really seem to dislike Information Technology...    =D
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #66 on: May 18, 2017, 06:54:08 PM »
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #67 on: May 19, 2017, 08:12:36 AM »
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Dude why would you disgrace the uniform like that?

I know you are an officer and don't know any better but still. :-*
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #68 on: May 19, 2017, 08:43:53 AM »
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Unfortunately, I clicked on the Twitchy link with Manning's actual photo. That was shudder-inducing. (Even more than this one, if possible!)
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #69 on: May 19, 2017, 08:51:19 AM »
Unfortunately, I clicked on the Twitchy link with Manning's actual photo. That was shudder-inducing. (Even more than this one, if possible!)

I did the same, started looking for eye bleach.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #70 on: May 19, 2017, 01:00:41 PM »
Dude why would you disgrace the uniform like that?

I know you are an officer and don't know any better but still. :-*

At least I didn't post that more recent pic of Manning.  You want to talk about disgracing the uniform.....
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #71 on: May 19, 2017, 10:41:14 PM »
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/15/chelsea-manning-to-remain-in-army-receive-health-care-benefits-after-prison-release.html

So this special little snowflake is getting out of the DB this week but is going to remain on active duty, w/ no pay but w/ health benefits.  Most likely going to have its manhood removed.

Be curious as to where it will be stationed and what duties it will be expected to carry out while waiting to be officially released.  I would say cutting grass with a pair of scissors, one blade at a time would be nice, or painting rocks.

 I see some "wall to wall " Counseling in he's future, if he hangs out around a military post.

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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #72 on: May 19, 2017, 11:00:46 PM »
I see some "wall to wall " Counseling in he's future, if he hangs out around a military post.

Yep.

I'd love to see that thing hazed out of the service.  All past wrongs aside,  why the hell did they let him back in?  They didn't do the freak any favors,  and it's a disgrace to the uniform.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #73 on: May 19, 2017, 11:19:35 PM »
I see some "wall to wall " Counseling in he's future, if he hangs out around a military post.

It warms my cold black heart to see the use of that term is still around. Depending on which command I was at it could have also been "counseling in the conex" or "fan room counseling". :) ;)

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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #74 on: May 19, 2017, 11:51:23 PM »
I'd love to see that thing hazed out of the service.  All past wrongs aside,  why the hell did they let him back in?  They didn't do the freak any favors,  and it's a disgrace to the uniform.

What do you mean, "let him back in"? He(she/it) was never out.
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