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« on: December 22, 2015, 05:58:16 PM »

http://www.someecards.com/news/so-that-happened/donald-trump-muslim-girl-army-vets-respond-i-will-protect-you/

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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2015, 06:09:21 PM »

So instead of reassuring the girl that she's one of us, and that America doesn't deport citizens because of their faith, people are just reinforcing the lies she's been told. The lie that Donald Trump (not my favorite person) is some kind of monster, that will deport her. They're telling her that they're getting ready to "fight the bad guys." In other words, they're telling a frightened girl that they're going to start a war over immigration policy. This is supposed to be a good thing?   rolleyes

Get your eyes checked, Mill.
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2015, 06:18:18 PM »

Interesting how so many of your former military colleagues seem to disagree with you, Fistful.  I wonder who the outlier is.
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2015, 06:25:09 PM »

hate to say it, millcreek, but fistful has a point.

the message should be that the child has nothing to fear because there is nothing for her to fear. Instead, they are telling her that she needs protection, so obviously, there is something she should fear if she needs to be protected from it.  undecided

as far as the military persons involved in this... you don't think they aren't immune from teh stupidz? because I can probably still find a few of those "Veterans for Obama" stickers driving around.
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2015, 06:32:49 PM »

The intricacies of fear politics and immigration vs. residency vs. citizenship might be lost on an 8 year old.

A bunch of folks whose job it is to be scary telling her she is safe is pretty clear. 

Not everything on Twitter needs to have social nuance. (I can't believe I had to write that.)

Mayhap if the adults in her life weren't saying that Trump "wants to kick out all Muslims" we could avoid all of this.  It's not like she stayed up late to watch the debates.  As usual A huge majority of our fellow voters are being played, and are playing the fools.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2015, 06:45:28 PM »

The intricacies of fear politics and immigration vs. residency vs. citizenship might be lost on an 8 year old.

A bunch of folks whose job it is to be scary telling her she is safe is pretty clear. 

Not everything on Twitter needs to have social nuance. (I can't believe I had to write that.)

Mayhap if the adults in her life weren't saying that Trump "wants to kick out all Muslims" we could avoid all of this.  It's not like she stayed up late to watch the debates.  As usual A huge majority of our fellow voters are being played, and are playing the fools.


OK, sure, but some of them are going about it much the wrong way. I mean, she also doesn't understand things like "I will defend the Constitution." Instead of "I will protect you from the bad guys," they could just as easily explain "No one's going to hurt you. It's all lies."
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2015, 06:46:15 PM »

Interesting how so many of your former military colleagues seem to disagree with you, Fistful.  I wonder who the outlier is.


 ROFL  Like I care.
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2015, 06:49:26 PM »

The intricacies of fear politics and immigration vs. residency vs. citizenship might be lost on an 8 year old.

A bunch of folks whose job it is to be scary telling her she is safe is pretty clear. 

Not everything on Twitter needs to have social nuance. (I can't believe I had to write that.)

Mayhap if the adults in her life weren't saying that Trump "wants to kick out all Muslims" we could avoid all of this.  It's not like she stayed up late to watch the debates.  As usual A huge majority of our fellow voters are being played, and are playing the fools.

I would bet even money that it's not the adults in her life as much as it's a classmates parent and the classmate is a bully. It just sounds like one of those things a kid comes home from school with.
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2015, 06:55:05 PM »


OK, sure, but some of them are going about it much the wrong way. I mean, she also doesn't understand things like "I will defend the Constitution." Instead of "I will protect you from the bad guys," they could just as easily explain "No one's going to hurt you. It's all lies."

Well, it is clear that you have never had children.
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2015, 07:02:41 PM »

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GOP front runner Donald Trump has been escalating his racism and anti-Muslim sentiment, and it's definitely not making America great again.

First sentence is a bunch of bullshit.

That's where I stop reading.

I'm not even a Trump fan but I will not align myself with his enemies nor support their narrative to bring him down.

It appears (if he is to be believed) Trump is closer to an ally than the Republican establishment let alone the Dems (spits).

edited to add: I am 100% opposed to any immigration from Muslim ruled countries unless it can be categorically be proven the immigrant was Christian or another persecuted minority. Also I might be convinced to support immigration of Muslims from secular democracies if it could be shown that there was actually vetting taking place. 
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2015, 07:34:40 PM »

A little googling shows that The Donald said no such thing.  He talked about not allowing muslim immigrants in until we get a handle on things.  He talked about maintaining a database of people here on visas and immigrants (which makes me wonder why we are not doing that now.)

He has never said anything about deporting all muslims or American citizens.  However, since the leftist media enjoys putting words in people's mouths we get the above.

Even hyper liberal wonkette castigates her fellow lefties in the media over it:
http://wonkette.com/596204/correction-donald-trump-did-not-threaten-to-deport-all-muslims-to-the-moon
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2015, 07:38:19 PM »

It's the typical meme based stupid that passes for fact these days.

Why think when you can FEEL!?

And posse comitatus be damned, it seems.
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2015, 07:44:14 PM »

Well, it is clear that you have never had children.

Oh, explain that one to me, guru. When someone tells blatant lies to a very young child, giving her a very real fear of being dragged out of her home by soldiers, you're supposed to respond by confirming that it could happen, but some people on the internet said some reassuring words? You shouldn't instead tell her it's a pack of lies, and will never happen (which is also the truth)?  Really?

Well, I give up. I better never have kids, if I can't be a rocket scientist like yourself.
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2015, 07:49:26 PM »

I would bet even money that it's not the adults in her life as much as it's a classmates parent and the classmate is a bully. It just sounds like one of those things a kid comes home from school with.
Seems more to me like publicity seeking parents using their daughter's fear (real or fictional) to push their own political agenda.  Cases like that tend to make me look to the parents as the genesis of the kid's concerns.
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2015, 07:55:02 PM »

Seems more to me like publicity seeking parents using their daughter's fear (real or fictional) to push their own political agenda.  Cases like that tend to make me look to the parents as the genesis of the kid's concerns.

Sorta like Clock Bomb Boy?
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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2015, 08:30:16 PM »


Is it a muslim cat?  Because Trump sez he's gonna deport it to Vietnam to "live on a farm." 

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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2015, 09:12:09 PM »

Seems more to me like publicity seeking parents using their daughter's fear (real or fictional) to push their own political agenda.  Cases like that tend to make me look to the parents as the genesis of the kid's concerns.

Ya think?

I wonder if she even has a daughter. (Well, OK, not really. But still. The mendacity of the Left is bottomless.)
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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2015, 09:48:26 PM »

Seems more to me like publicity seeking parents using their daughter's fear (real or fictional) to push their own political agenda.  Cases like that tend to make me look to the parents as the genesis of the kid's concerns.

This, in spades.
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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2015, 10:01:51 PM »

A little googling shows that The Donald said no such thing.  He talked about not allowing muslim immigrants in until we get a handle on things.  He talked about maintaining a database of people here on visas and immigrants (which makes me wonder why we are not doing that now.)

He has never said anything about deporting all muslims or American citizens.  However, since the leftist media enjoys putting words in people's mouths we get the above.

Even hyper liberal wonkette castigates her fellow lefties in the media over it:
http://wonkette.com/596204/correction-donald-trump-did-not-threaten-to-deport-all-muslims-to-the-moon

It goes back to the 'Palin can see russia from her porch' lie that liberals falsely attributed to her.  Their M.O. since has been to shotgun lies about conservatives so that conservatives have to waste their time and money debunking them.
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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2015, 10:04:33 PM »

It goes back to the 'Palin can see russia from her porch' lie that liberals falsely attributed to her.  Their M.O. since has been to shotgun lies about conservatives so that conservatives have to waste their time and money debunking them.


Since?  undecided
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« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2015, 05:42:45 AM »

http://gawker.com/ted-cruz-would-never-exploit-his-kids-says-ted-cruz-as-1749389168

It is a good thing that conservatives would never exploit children for political purposes.  I also saw his commercial during 'SNL' using his children and received the email blast asking for the $ 1 million.
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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2015, 05:50:21 AM »

http://gawker.com/ted-cruz-would-never-exploit-his-kids-says-ted-cruz-as-1749389168

It is a good thing that conservatives would never exploit children for political purposes.  I also saw his commercial during 'SNL' using his children and received the email blast asking for the $ 1 million.

Ah, tu quoque.
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« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2015, 06:02:25 AM »

I keep reiterating this daily it seems.  Our nation can survive corrupt politicians.  I have some trepidation whether we can survive the corrupt politicians when the MSM is in the corrupt politician's pocket staffed by useful idiots and out and out liars.
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« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2015, 06:33:20 AM »

http://gawker.com/ted-cruz-would-never-exploit-his-kids-says-ted-cruz-as-1749389168

It is a good thing that conservatives would never exploit children for political purposes.  I also saw his commercial during 'SNL' using his children and received the email blast asking for the $ 1 million.
Who said conservatives never exploit children for political purposes?  Oh, that's right, nobody.
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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2015, 06:57:16 AM »

Who said conservatives never exploit children for political purposes?  Oh, that's right, nobody.

It makes for a great strawman attack though...
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