Author Topic: And he's out... (Read 3981 times)

lupinus · « **on:** February 20, 2016, 08:47:50 PM »

Bush is officially suspending.

Also looks like Trump is solidly taking SC. Cruz and Rubio still a toss up for second and a solid third place.

sumpnz · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2016, 08:50:17 PM »

Heard Carson was going to stick out a bit longer. Don't know why, other than he thinks he'll sell a few more books, or some other purely vanity purpose.

lupinus · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2016, 08:52:48 PM »

At this point if your name isn't Trump, Cruz, or Rubio just pack it in already.

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Battle Monkey of Zardoz · « **Reply #3 on:** February 20, 2016, 08:55:47 PM »

About time!!

AJ Dual · « **Reply #4 on:** February 20, 2016, 08:58:58 PM »

Quote from: lupinus on February 20, 2016, 08:47:50 PM

Bush is officially suspending.

Also looks like Trump is solidly taking SC. Cruz and Rubio still a toss up for second and a solid third place.

Thank God...

And keep in mind, we're not even 1/4 of the way through the primaries yet. And Rubio/Cruz's numbers combined have always trounced Trump. And as Jeb! drops out, Kaisch and the others should soon as well, none of their followers are going to go with Trump. The 30-ish% Trump consistently pulls is about as high as he gets, and it matches his approval ratings among likely GOP voters about that much too.

Trump's achilles heel is that he's almost no one's second choice as people drop out. He can win as long as that 30-ish% is enough to win, but once people shift around, he's going to drop.

A brokered convention is not ideal, but even if the three of them all go 1-2-3 in some combination through all 50 states, whoever was most consistently #2 other than Trump, assuming neither Rubio nor Cruz starts pulling ahead decisively, giving the other all the delegates and still not nominating Trump.

There is the issue of Trump going rogue and independent, which would sink the GOP candidate, sure, but I don't know how much he's willing to spend his money out of spite, knowing he won't win, assuming the conspiracy theories that "he's Hillary's secret spoiler" are just that, conspiracy theories.

Note too that the DNC primary/caucus attendance has up to a 30% "enthusiasm gap" as compared to the GOP race too.

And whoever wins the nomination, it's Hobson's choice for the DNC. Bernie is IMO unelectable, I don't care what the polling says now about various Bernie Vs. XYZ matchups. His optics and delivery sucks, even as compared to Trump's. Take away all the starry-eyed kids blathering about "free college", he's just a wild haired doddering old commie. Hillary gets the nomination through the chicanery and superdelegates, all the energy there is in the DNC base was with Bernie and all the energetic kids check out, take their ball and go home. And Hillary is unlikeable enough that the MSM won't give up completely on the email scandal. And the "new PC" social-justice-warrior climate, combined with Bill's sexual predator history... that is going to dog her all the way too.

I'm not going to "freak out" until May or so.

p.s. None of that Jeb-money is going to Trump either, so look to Cruz or Rubio's war-chest getting some significant deposits soon.

Ben · « **Reply #5 on:** February 20, 2016, 09:05:51 PM »

Quote from: AJ Dual on February 20, 2016, 08:58:58 PM

Hillary gets the nomination through the chicanery and superdelegates, all the energy there is in the DNC base was with Bernie and all the energetic kids check out, take their ball and go home. And

I saw that she has an outrageous amount of superdelegates compared to Sanders, even though the vote counts have all been close in all states so far.

I don't totally understand superdelegates other than they seem to tow the establishment line for both parties. It'll be interesting to see how the superdelegate numbers change on the R side with Jeb out. I'm still assuming the establishment is going Rubio.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #6 on:** February 20, 2016, 09:08:59 PM »

Please clap.

Ben · « **Reply #7 on:** February 20, 2016, 09:14:11 PM »

Also, apparently not only did Clinton win by coin tosses in Iowa, in Nevada, she's winning precincts by drawing the highest card. Primaries are a joke.

http://twitchy.com/2016/02/20/tight-democratic-race-in-nevada-uses-deck-of-cards-to-break-tie/

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #8 on:** February 20, 2016, 09:30:33 PM »

Seems appropriate for Nevada.

Jocassee · « **Reply #9 on:** February 20, 2016, 09:36:44 PM »

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Jeb was the wrong man, running the wrong race, in the wrong year.

makattak · « **Reply #10 on:** February 20, 2016, 09:52:35 PM »

Rubio is going to try to consolidate the establishment voters.

I will not vote for Rubio. I'll vote for Sanders first because he's honest about his aims and I'm not going to reward the establishment for trying to stab the base in the back.

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Andiron · « **Reply #11 on:** February 20, 2016, 09:58:39 PM »

Best news since Scalia died. Anyone with the last name Bush needed to go away.

I'm voting dem this year in the primaries, the county I'm in is solidly dem, so it's the only way to have a say locally. I'll be pulling the lever for Sanders just to spite Clinton.

roo_ster · « **Reply #12 on:** February 20, 2016, 10:53:53 PM »

All four of ÃJeb!'s voters will go to Rubio, who is a younger, better coiffed version of ÃJeb!.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #13 on:** February 20, 2016, 11:45:57 PM »

Quote from: roo_ster on February 20, 2016, 10:53:53 PM

ÃJeb!

French G. · « **Reply #14 on:** February 20, 2016, 11:54:58 PM »

Quote from: fistful on February 20, 2016, 09:08:59 PM

Please clap.

I see and clap for what you did there.

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #15 on:** February 21, 2016, 02:44:43 AM »

Cute redirect:

www.jebbush.com

RocketMan · « **Reply #16 on:** February 21, 2016, 03:19:00 AM »

Quote from: Ben on February 20, 2016, 09:05:51 PM

I saw that she has an outrageous amount of superdelegates compared to Sanders, even though the vote counts have all been close in all states so far.

I don't totally understand superdelegates other than they seem to tow the establishment line for both parties. It'll be interesting to see how the superdelegate numbers change on the R side with Jeb out. I'm still assuming the establishment is going Rubio.

The Republican superdelegate process works much differently than the Democrat version. Republican SDs have far less of an effect on the outcome of the primaries as they must vote the way the states they represent voted. Unlike the Democrat SDs, they are not free to vote for whomever they wish. Plus, the Republicans have far fewer superdelegates than the Democrat party.

TechMan · « **Reply #17 on:** February 21, 2016, 06:27:09 AM »

Quote from: Ben on February 20, 2016, 09:05:51 PM

I saw that she has an outrageous amount of superdelegates compared to Sanders, even though the vote counts have all been close in all states so far.

I don't totally understand superdelegates other than they seem to tow the establishment line for both parties. It'll be interesting to see how the superdelegate numbers change on the R side with Jeb out. I'm still assuming the establishment is going Rubio.

Ben, somebody posted this on the book of face. I found it most helpful in explaining the superdelegates.
http://www.chicksontheright.com/if-youre-wondering-how-rigged-this-election-is-on-the-democrat-side-read-this/

HeroHog · « **Reply #18 on:** February 21, 2016, 09:46:29 AM »

Click it, it's worth it...

http://cheezburger.com/8752654080/web-comics-rock-roll-apple-cooperates-with-the-fbi

Ben · « **Reply #19 on:** February 21, 2016, 11:01:55 AM »

Quote from: adively on February 21, 2016, 06:27:09 AM

Ben, somebody posted this on the book of face. I found it most helpful in explaining the superdelegates.
http://www.chicksontheright.com/if-youre-wondering-how-rigged-this-election-is-on-the-democrat-side-read-this/

Thanks Andy!

It will certainly be interesting to see what happens with Democrat voters if Sanders wins the most states, but Clinton still gets the nod.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #20 on:** February 21, 2016, 11:03:04 AM »

Quote from: HeroHog on February 21, 2016, 09:46:29 AM

Click it, it's worth it...

http://cheezburger.com/8752654080/web-comics-rock-roll-apple-cooperates-with-the-fbi

Ummmm ... wrong thread?

HankB · « **Reply #21 on:** February 21, 2016, 12:34:00 PM »

Quote from: Ben on February 20, 2016, 09:05:51 PM

I don't totally understand superdelegates other than they seem to tow the establishment line for both parties.

Superdelegates - particularly Democrat superdelegates - are a way of fixing an election by reducing the influence of the voters at large, who are too stupid to be counted on to vote for the correct person.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #22 on:** February 21, 2016, 01:14:20 PM »

Alright, enough with all the superdelegate mathematics. Let's get back to celebrating the topic of this thread.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 21, 2016, 08:42:38 PM »

I think Trump had a lot to do with showing voters who Jeb! really is. For that I thank him.

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #24 on:** February 24, 2016, 05:47:06 PM »

News:

Author Topic: And he's out... (Read 3981 times)