When to boycot a business?

[Fly320s]

Team Wendy, a D.O.D. contractor that makes excellent ballistic helmets for NVGs, is hosting Hillary Clinton today.  Now, I don't know if the owner is a Clinton fan or if he is just practicing good business to keep his contracts flowing, but many people are up in arms about the visit.

AR15.com thread about it:  https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1876808_Hillary_Clinton_to_visit_Team_Wendy.html    The thread is short on info and long on outrage.

My opinion: I'll wait to see what Team Wendy has to say and look at any videos that come from the event before I get my outrage on.  If the Team Wendy owner is a Hillaryite, then I can find a helmet at OpsCore.

Your thoughts?

[T.O.M.]

I agree.  I understand that a business has to play politicsby staing in good grace with buyers.  Not that I'm in the market for a helmet, but I'd wait and see as well.

[seeker_two]

I'm not really in the market for a helmet.....can I boycott Wendy's Restaurant instead?

[French G.]

I would wait for a clear "you suck and we hate you moment." My only active boycotts are gun stuff, CTD, H-S, Leatherman, and a bevy of LGS who post no loaded guns signs.

[Perd Hapley]

Are we talking about an organized boycott, where you tell them what you're doing, and why, and enlist others? Or just a casual boycott, where you simply decline to do business with them?


These are the places I casually boycott, either due to principle, or because I want to help the market work, by punishing bad business practices:

Charmin, because I hate their stupid bear commercials, where they show me pieces of toilet paper, stuck to a bear's rear end.

The local mortgage place, because the owner used to annoy the Holy Hand Grenade out of me, with his stupid voice in the commercials.

Restaurants that serve alcohol.


Places I mostly boycott:

Places that go overboard with their sexy advertisements (Hardees, GoDaddy.com, European-American-Armory (also boycotting them for their embarrassing, robot-woman-with-gun-leg adverts - they should change their name to WTFJapan-American-Armory))

Local grocery chain that isn't posted, but has a history of victim-disarmament-activism

[BobR]

Charmin, because I hate their stupid bear commercials, where they show me pieces of toilet paper, stuck to a bear's rear end.

But(t) at least they are in the woods, which answers that age old questions.     


bob

[lupinus]

One must over look certain offenses. Life is to short to deal with inferior toilet paper.


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[230RN]

Team Wendy?

Shouldn't that be a Girlcott or maybe Personcott nowadays?

[Boomhauer]

Word on the street is the owner has a history of donations to liberal politicans.

[T.O.M.]

Are we talking about an organized boycott, where you tell them what you're doing, and why, and enlist others? Or just a casual boycott, where you simply decline to do business with them?


These are the places I casually boycott, either due to principle, or because I want to help the market work, by punishing bad business practices:

Charmin, because I hate their stupid bear commercials, where they show me pieces of toilet paper, stuck to a bear's rear end.

The local mortgage place, because the owner used to annoy the Holy Hand Grenade out of me, with his stupid voice in the commercials.

Restaurants that serve alcohol.


Places I mostly boycott:

Places that go overboard with their sexy advertisements (Hardees, GoDaddy.com, European-American-Armory (also boycotting them for their embarrassing, robot-woman-with-gun-leg adverts - they should change their name to WTFJapan-American-Armory))

Local grocery chain that isn't posted, but has a history of victim-disarmament-activism

I won't go to H.H. Gregg appliance/electronic store.  No showed on two appointments to deliver item.  Called to cancel order, manager refused to do it on phone.  I went to the store and demanded the item right then.  Manager claimed that when we bought the washer, it was back-ordered.  It wasn't.  Said he'd wave the delivery fee.  It was free delivery.  Asked to reduce price for inconvenience, he told me tohave a nice day and walked away.  I write corporate, and got an FOAD letter.  Won't spend another dollar in that store.

[Fly320s]

From what I have found out, the owner of Team Wendy is a lifelong democrat and a current Hillary donor and supporter.  The owner says all he cares about is protecting people from TBI and helping people who have TBI.  He doesn't mention anything about guns.  I'm inclined to believe him, but since he is a DOD contractor I'm sure he has heard all he needs to hear about guns, 2nd Amendment, and Hillary-is-the-devil from the military personnel he has met.  So, either is goes-along to get-along or he just keeps his mouth shut.  In any case, I be he knows Hillary's anti-gun stance and chooses to support her anyway.  Maybe he is anti-gun, too.  I don't know.

I'll go for the "soft" boycott.  I wasn't planning on buying a Team Wendy helmet this year, but I do plan to buy a NVG compatible helmet some day.  I guess I'll have to find another supplier.

[AJ Dual]

For what it's worth, TNVC has cut all business ties with Team Wendy as of today.

And the whole "suck up for DoD contracts"-thing... that could backfire too.

Because the "tip o' the spear" and door-kicker types who eat snakes and worms for breakfast, who actually are issued Team Wendy helmets, instead of a regular PASGT/ACH, their procurement chain is a bit more localized, more subject to team input and doesn't go through Washington (as much).

[MechAg94]

For what it's worth, TNVC has cut all business ties with Team Wendy as of today.

And the whole "suck up for DoD contracts"-thing... that could backfire too.

Because the "tip o' the spear" and door-kicker types who eat snakes and worms for breakfast, who actually are issued Team Wendy helmets, instead of a regular PASGT/ACH, their procurement chain is a bit more localized, more subject to team input and doesn't go through Washington (as much).

Seems a bit foolish.  You would think they would pay more attention to who their customers are both military and civilian and who makes the purchase decisions.  But maybe not everyone realizes how quickly vendors and publications can be blackballed in this industry. 

[Perd Hapley]

Why should they be worried? After all, "most gun-owners" and "most NRA members" support sensible gun safety confiscation, right?

[charby]

Any business that allows multilevel marketing groups to have recruitment meetings. I.e. AMWAY.

[Balog]

For what it's worth, TNVC has cut all business ties with Team Wendy as of today.

And the whole "suck up for DoD contracts"-thing... that could backfire too.

Because the "tip o' the spear" and door-kicker types who eat snakes and worms for breakfast, who actually are issued Team Wendy helmets, instead of a regular PASGT/ACH, their procurement chain is a bit more localized, more subject to team input and doesn't go through Washington (as much).

I love TNVC.

And if they pay Hillary enough I'm sure she can convince the top brass that the PAGT/ACH is inadequate and they need a new replacement. And oh look the specs read like a Team Wendy catalog! What a surprise...

Bribing politicians has the highest rate of return of any investment.

[grampster]

I agree.  I understand that a business has to play politicsby staing in good grace with buyers.  Not that I'm in the market for a helmet, but I'd wait and see as well.

If you want to stay in good grace with customers, It might be a good idea not to get caught up in politics or other controversial things.  On the other hand most Democrats and lefty libbies are not known for rational thought VS emotional dreck.

[makattak]

Bribing politicians has the highest rate of return of any investment.

That's because the inverse, failing to bribe politicians, is the riskiest move any company can take. (See Gibson Guitars, for example.)