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Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« on: October 03, 2016, 07:57:28 AM »


http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/29/feminist-phd-candidate-science-sexist-not-subjective/

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Initial exploration of the STEM syllabi in this study did not reveal overt references to gender, such as through the use of gendered pronouns. However, upon deeper review, language used in the syllabi reflects institutionalized STEM teaching practices and views about knowledge that are inherently discriminatory to women and minorities by promoting a view of knowledge as static and unchanging, a view of teaching that promotes the idea of a passive student, and by promoting a chilly climate that marginalizes women.
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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2016, 09:57:11 AM »
Just another example of the absolute insanity that post modernism has born.

Cultural Marxism, nihilism and the rest of the post Christian philosophies taken to their natural conclusions are basically mental illness.

I read "Escape from Reason" by  Francis Schaeffer back in college and depressingly have seen the philosophical trend it critiques become the dominate philosophy of our culture. It's madness.

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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2016, 10:05:44 AM »
Well, I'm feeling dumber for even having read the excerpts quoted in the article.

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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2016, 11:01:27 AM »
Well, I'm feeling dumber for even having read the excerpts quoted in the article.


Which might, I think, be the intended outcome.  =|
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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2016, 12:17:03 PM »
So she got to this point of view by reviewing 8 syllabi?  Isn't that a rather small sample size?  No mention of her taking the classes that I see.

"static and unchanging"?  That rather depends on the class, doesn't it?  Hate to say it, but physics below the 200 level hasn't changed much in the last hundred years or so, and lots within it for far longer.

Hell, she should have looked at math.  I haven't done any math that's changed significantly in the last 400!

Passive student?  Science courses have the most labs, where you have to be very active.  How'd she come to this conclusion, and is she aware that boys tend to prosper MORE in active classes, it's the women who can tolerate being "passive"? 


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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2016, 12:24:22 PM »
So she got to this point of view by reviewing 8 syllabi?  Isn't that a rather small sample size?  No mention of her taking the classes that I see.

"static and unchanging"?  That rather depends on the class, doesn't it?  Hate to say it, but physics below the 200 level hasn't changed much in the last hundred years or so, and lots within it for far longer.

Hell, she should have looked at math.  I haven't done any math that's changed significantly in the last 400!

Passive student?  Science courses have the most labs, where you have to be very active.  How'd she come to this conclusion, and is she aware that boys tend to prosper MORE in active classes, it's the women who can tolerate being "passive"? 

Don't trouble her pretty little head with toxically masculine "facts." 
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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2016, 12:25:26 PM »
Hell, she should have looked at math.  I haven't done any math that's changed significantly in the last 400!

Clearly, math is the subject of white males everywhere.

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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2016, 12:32:34 PM »

For everyone about to rage out, this was a doctoral candidate at the University of North Dakota. Not a study, not anything other than essentially an opinion paper. Granted, it's disturbing that this came from a "education department" student. That said, the dissertation could be rejected with basically "you are a moron, switch majors to sociology".

Blame an incredibly stupid student for her OWN individual opinion. Not everyone else that had nothing to do said paper.
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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2016, 01:16:47 PM »
For everyone about to rage out, this was a doctoral candidate at the University of North Dakota. Not a study, not anything other than essentially an opinion paper. Granted, it's disturbing that this came from a "education department" student. That said, the dissertation could be rejected with basically "you are a moron, switch majors to sociology".

Blame an incredibly stupid student for her OWN individual opinion. Not everyone else that had nothing to do said paper.

If there is a department with lower standards than sociology for initial student entry...and then adherence to empirical evidence over political narrative, it is the education department.
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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2016, 01:20:04 PM »
For everyone about to rage out, this was a doctoral candidate at the University of North Dakota. Not a study, not anything other than essentially an opinion paper. Granted, it's disturbing that this came from a "education department" student. That said, the dissertation could be rejected with basically "you are a moron, switch majors to sociology".

Blame an incredibly stupid student for her OWN individual opinion. Not everyone else that had nothing to do said paper.


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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2016, 01:35:12 PM »
That said, the dissertation could be rejected with basically "you are a moron, switch majors to sociology".

Probably already switched majors due to flunking out of the sociology program.

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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2016, 02:01:29 PM »
For everyone about to rage out, this was a doctoral candidate at the University of North Dakota. Not a study, not anything other than essentially an opinion paper. Granted, it's disturbing completely unsurprising that this came from a "education department" student.

FTFY.

Education departments are the realm of the dumbest people in college. And yes, they rank below sociology and sports management majors.*






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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2016, 02:53:09 PM »

You are creating a chilly climate for my rage, but it will put on a cardigan, and turn on its space heater.

Your rage should heat any space it's in quite nicely, sans sweaters or space heaters....
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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2016, 08:33:30 PM »
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That said, the dissertation could be rejected with basically "you are a moron, switch majors to sociology".

Probably already switched majors due to flunking out of the sociology program.

The way many universities seem to be operating these days, she probably not only got her Ph.D., she was also probably offered a tenure track teaching position.
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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2016, 09:44:20 PM »
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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2016, 11:31:00 PM »
And where did she get all those nutty ideas? She's regurgitating the goofy *expletive deleted*it she has been taught over the years.

She isn't challenging the system, she is stroking it, telling it what it wants to hear so she can get her PHD.
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2016, 09:36:43 AM »
And where did she get all those nutty ideas? She's regurgitating the goofy *expletive deleted*it she has been taught over the years.

She isn't challenging the system, she is stroking it, telling it what it wants to hear so she can get her PHD.

Honestly, the smartest thing to do. Professors are people and vary. The hard science folk generally are alright and there's not a lot of room to screw you on the subjective parts. Soft science or non-science subjects? Just agree with whatever the professor says. College is hideously expensive. Standing up for your opinion is a potentially good way of blowing a couple grand. In my case, it was enough for a prof to find out I was in the military to go from straight A's to straight F's.

Not saying that is the case, but if my dissertation board were a bunch of non-science professors to the left of Lenin? And my post-doc education costs tens of thousands of dollars? You damn right I would be saying I identify sexually as an Apache attack helicopter, mayonnaise is a valid gender and science is mean because it uses logic and reason.
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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2016, 09:40:23 AM »
And where did she get all those nutty ideas? She's regurgitating the goofy *expletive deleted*it she has been taught over the years.

She isn't challenging the system, she is stroking it, telling it what it wants to hear so she can get her PHD.

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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2016, 10:31:02 AM »
I identify sexually as an Apache attack helicopter, mayonnaise is a valid gender and science is mean because it uses logic and reason.


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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2016, 12:18:27 PM »
I identify sexually as an Apache attack helicopter, mayonnaise is a valid gender and science is mean because it uses logic and reason.

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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2016, 12:54:30 PM »

Gee, thanks for the selective quoting.   :rofl:

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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2016, 02:33:12 PM »
I've had a revelation. (I'm sure I'm just coming to it more slowly than to some of you, though.)

These leftists have realized that we live in a truly equal society (or at least as close as you can get) where every person, regardless of gender or race, has equal opportunity for advancement based on their own talents and skills.

The will never say that is the case, but they know it to be true.

I can say this because the OP's type of rationalization (Science, logic, evidence, is RACIST and SEXIST!) is necessary for these people to explain why certain professions and industries have a greater prevalence (or absence) of one sex or race only if it is not due to "you are racistly oppressingly discriminatingly against <black people, brown people, women, etc...>



I realize not all leftists have given up the "WE LIVE IN THE WORSTEST, MOST RASISTIST SOCIETY IN TEH HISTORY OF TEH WORLD, PRECIOUS!!!" but those who are pushing the "logic is racist" theory must have realized that personal racism must be all but dead.
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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2016, 04:16:39 PM »
Rebels without a cause must find a cause.......................... so they redefine the problem so the former cause is still valid (in their own minds).  Finding another cause would be too much work.



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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2016, 05:38:05 PM »
Next, she needs to support her thesis with a study showing that subjective approaches lead to better, more usable results than do objective approaches. I am willing to accept the word of my MBA, PhD in engineering, statistics teaching wife as to whether she succeeds in proving her case.
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Re: Girls and brown people are dumb - it's science
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2016, 05:54:27 PM »
Next, she needs to support her thesis with a study showing that subjective approaches lead to better, more usable results than do objective approaches. I am willing to accept the word of my MBA, PhD in engineering, statistics teaching wife as to whether she succeeds in proving her case.


What a deplorable suggestion.  :O
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