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How many things can you do wrong at once?
« on: December 27, 2016, 10:53:49 AM »
http://abc13.com/news/mom-walks-30-hours-through-snow-to-help-family/1674468/

Leaving the relative safety of the car
Not being prepared for winter backcountry driving
Not using a backup form of navigation
Driving onto snow covered forest service roads without the ability to self rescue

I'm amused by how easily the husband ended up getting cell reception. 


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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2016, 11:10:49 AM »
 [popcorn]

Did the husband even put up a fight to be the one to go "searching" for help?
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2016, 11:13:36 AM »
Damn. Stories like that usually end with "Searchers are still trying to locate X," followed a couple of months later by "The body of X, who tried to walk to rescue after becoming snowbound has been located..."
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2016, 11:15:18 AM »
At least she will end up with cheaper pedicure bills after this adventure!!   =|


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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2016, 11:46:28 AM »
[popcorn]

Did the husband even put up a fight to be the one to go "searching" for help?

I think the conversation went like this:

"You'll have to go for help."

"I'm not the one who put the car in the ditch. Go for help yourself, wonder-woman."
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2016, 12:06:32 PM »
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When she ran out of food and water, she ate pine twigs and drank her urine, her sister told the Morning Call newspaper.

Insert Bear Grylls meme here.
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2016, 12:08:46 PM »
Insert Bear Grylls meme here.

Why? Did someone end up drinking their own pee?
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2016, 12:12:46 PM »
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2016, 12:24:44 PM »
Why? Did someone end up drinking their own pee?


The silly little woman did.
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2016, 12:29:47 PM »
These are either two of the stupidest people on the planet or we aren't getting the whole story. Two professors no less teaching college...

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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2016, 12:31:34 PM »
Darwin has been cheated.
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2016, 12:32:52 PM »
One has to feel sorry for the child in question that it has two clueless parents.
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2016, 12:47:05 PM »
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Arizona State Route 67, which leads to the canyon's north rim, is closed for the winter and their car's GPS detoured them through forest service roads.

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She thought the nearest major highway was only a short trek away.

My bet: The GPS re-routed them and they either didn't know or didn't care why. They were very close to the closed highway, probably running more or less parallel, but didn't know it was closed.

That said the woman was incredibly stupid and lucky to be alive. Even if he had delegated her (provided she was in better shape than he) to go check out the road, they should have had a contingency plan in place for her to come back to the car.

So stupid.



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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2016, 01:43:50 PM »
Why? Did someone end up drinking their own pee?

You've all missed the most important quote in this!

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Stranded on a secluded road with heavy snow falling... subsisting on twigs and her urine...

THERE WAS SNOW. SNOW IS FLUFFY FROZEN WATER. YOU CAN EAT THE SNOW IF YA NEED WATER!
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2016, 01:56:00 PM »
You've all missed the most important quote in this!

THERE WAS SNOW. SNOW IS FLUFFY FROZEN WATER. YOU CAN EAT THE SNOW IF YA NEED WATER!

Actually if eat snow as snow you will cool your core temp quickly.  To eat snow properly, you should melt it and actually drink the water.
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2016, 01:59:40 PM »
You've all missed the most important quote in this!

THERE WAS SNOW. SNOW IS FLUFFY FROZEN WATER. YOU CAN EAT THE SNOW IF YA NEED WATER!


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Klein knew eating snow would hasten hypothermia.

One of the few, if only smart decision she made. ;)

As prepared as she was I would bet she didn't consider taking something to make fire with her. Fire would make it too easy to stay warm and to melt snow and that would not play well in the "Made for TV Movie", we need hardship and adversity to fuel the sympathy the audience will feel for her.

Besides, the pee was already at her basal temp. ;)

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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2016, 02:00:57 PM »
Actually if eat snow as snow you will cool your core temp quickly.  To eat snow properly, you should melt it and actually drink the water.

and it takes a LOT of snow to make a little water.
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2016, 02:10:46 PM »
and it takes a LOT of snow to make a little water.

That depends on the "fluff quotient" of the snow. [tinfoil] [popcorn]
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2016, 02:13:46 PM »
That depends on the "fluff quotient" of the snow. [tinfoil] [popcorn]

I think we should stop now before we all end up in a battle royal over fluffyness of snow vs. water quantity.

I don't know why, but this drift makes me think of the cornbread wars...  [tinfoil]
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2016, 02:23:38 PM »
I think we should stop now before we all end up in a battle royal over fluffyness of snow vs. water quantity.

I don't know why, but this drift makes me think of the cornbread wars...  [tinfoil]

There is no comparison, you don't put sugar in snow to make water, unless you plan on making sweet tea with it. :)

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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2016, 02:28:10 PM »
There is no comparison, you don't put sugar in snow to make water, unless you plan on making sweet tea with it. :)

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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2016, 03:41:55 PM »
A few years back, SWMBO needed to go home (near Buffalo, N.Y.) in winter, and I could not go along.  So, I packed her car for the trip.  Keep in mind, she was going to be driving major interstate highways most of the way.  Still, I packed canned food, candy, sleeping bag, water bottles, a small pot, several candles, multiple lighters and matches, shovel, orange plastic poncho, 100 feet of paracord, multi-tool, small supply of dry firewood, a folding saw, and a fixed blade knife.  This was along with the normal tool bag, jumper cables, first aid supplies, etc.  I can't imagine intentionally driving through remote areas with no survival gear.  But, I guess that's why we'll be surviving the zombies, not becoming walkers.   :laugh:
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2016, 05:11:25 PM »
A few years back, SWMBO needed to go home (near Buffalo, N.Y.) in winter, and I could not go along.  So, I packed her car for the trip.  Keep in mind, she was going to be driving major interstate highways most of the way.  Still, I packed canned food, candy, sleeping bag, water bottles, a small pot, several candles, multiple lighters and matches, shovel, orange plastic poncho, 100 feet of paracord, multi-tool, small supply of dry firewood, a folding saw, and a fixed blade knife.  This was along with the normal tool bag, jumper cables, first aid supplies, etc.  I can't imagine intentionally driving through remote areas with no survival gear.  But, I guess that's why we'll be surviving the zombies, not becoming walkers.   :laugh:

I keep most of that stuff along with a lot of other stuff in my car on a daily basis and I only regularly drive about 15 miles back and forth to work. I was a Boy Scout though and took the be prepared part to extremes at times. I also have gotten stuck in snow storms for over 20 hours or so when I lived in Colorado up around Rocky Mountain National Park area.

And yes eating snow can contribute to hypothermia, but at only 30 hours in she certainly shouldn't have been at the point of needing to drink urine for one. Secondly if she had a container to contain urine then she should have been able to melt snow. Putting aside arguments about the water content of various types of snow.

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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2016, 05:17:33 PM »
I keep most of that stuff along with a lot of other stuff in my car on a daily basis and I only regularly drive about 15 miles back and forth to work. I was a Boy Scout though and took the be prepared part to extremes at times. I also have gotten stuck in snow storms for over 20 hours or so when I lived in Colorado up around Rocky Mountain National Park area.

And yes eating snow can contribute to hypothermia, but at only 30 hours in she certainly shouldn't have been at the point of needing to drink urine for one.
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Secondly if she had a container to contain urine then she should have been able to melt snow.
Putting aside arguments about the water content of various types of snow.

She just might be very flexible.
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Re: How many things can you do wrong at once?
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2016, 09:30:21 PM »
I think we should stop now before we all end up in a battle royal over fluffyness of snow vs. water quantity.

I don't know why, but this drift makes me think of the cornbread wars...  [tinfoil]

Snow?

Drift?

Do I detect a nascent pun?
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