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You think your HOA is bad?
« on: January 01, 2017, 07:36:48 PM »
http://fna.speedsociety.com/car-blocked-in-driveway-by-hoa-is-this-legal  [ar15]

The youtube site has more to the story in the poster's comment/description.

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Re: You think your HOA is bad?
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2017, 09:12:57 PM »
Move 'em out into the street* then grind the loops off the top  >:D

*put a pipe or big rebar in the loop as a lever to tip one end up, the put some kind of rollers under it.
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Re: You think your HOA is bad?
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2017, 09:31:54 PM »
Move 'em out into the street* then grind the loops off the top  >:D


Easier said than done. Visual scale, I'd guess they're at least 2 feet in each dimension, so 8 cubic feet. Concrete weighs 150 pounds per cubic foot, so that's a minimum of 1200 pounds -- more than half a ton. Contractors use heavy equipment to move those things around. They aren't nick-named "mafia blocks" for nothing.
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Re: You think your HOA is bad?
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2017, 10:05:20 PM »
My engine hoist would easily move 1200 lbs.  The hardest part of this situation would be deciding where the best place to put them would be: in the HOA prez's driveway, or the trunk of his car.
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Re: You think your HOA is bad?
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2017, 10:24:57 PM »
My engine hoist would easily move 1200 lbs.  The hardest part of this situation would be deciding where the best place to put them would be.  In the HOA prez's driveway, or the trunk of his car.

I'd probably put them in each of his entry doors.

Note that I said in.  Not just blocking.

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Re: You think your HOA is bad?
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2017, 10:29:13 PM »
I don't get how that's legal, even with an HOA.  ???

I get that they can make life hell with paperwork and legal action taken through lawyers and whatnot, but actually vandalizing someones property over fee's due? I'm not getting into the youtube commentary, but did they have some sort of court order saying they could do that?
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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2017, 10:38:26 PM »
This is why HOA board members should keep VERY good home insurance, in case of "accidents."
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Re: You think your HOA is bad?
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2017, 10:47:14 PM »
Call a friend over with a truck and a chain.
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« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2017, 11:19:16 PM »
Those are probably rented.  I doubt the HOA had them lying around.  It would also be kinda fun to rent a flat trailer and engine hoist (if one doesn't already own such things) and haul them away in the dead of night.  Then play dumb.  "What huge concrete blocks?  I didn't see any huge blocks."

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Re: You think your HOA is bad?
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2017, 11:21:52 PM »
The one time detcord is even a relevant response, and it takes 9 replies? Pretty weak, guys.  =|



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Re: You think your HOA is bad?
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2017, 11:44:09 PM »
Man, what luck! 

I'd be thrilled if someone offered to gift me some free concrete blocks by abandoning them on my personal property.  I'd spray paint them pretty florescent colors and put them right in my front yard as a work of modern art.

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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2017, 11:49:28 PM »
... Isn't there some mad chemistry trick one could use to dissolve concrete? or at least some easily homemade concoction that you drill a hole and pour it in for boomy effect?

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Re: You think your HOA is bad?
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2017, 11:58:33 PM »
... Isn't there some mad chemistry trick one could use to dissolve concrete? or at least some easily homemade concoction that you drill a hole and pour it in for boomy effect?

Where is the APS chemist when you need him? I know we have one...

Not a chemist, but you'd need huge amounts of the chemicals (hydrochloric acid, maybe) to dissolve 1000 lbs of concrete because the chemical will be consumed by the process.

Drilling a hole with a star drill and filling with a small amount of high explosive could work.  Getting the charge exactly right might be tricky, and you don't get many tries.
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Re: You think your HOA is bad?
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2017, 11:59:20 PM »
Drilling a hole with a star drill and filling with a small amount of high explosive could work.  Getting the charge exactly right might be tricky, and you don't get many tries.

You get at least three just in that picture.

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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2017, 12:14:25 AM »
What about a little spritzing of liquid nitrogen and a hammer?
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Re: You think your HOA is bad?
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2017, 12:31:00 AM »
What about a little spritzing of liquid nitrogen and a hammer?

You'd need quite a bit of LN2 to make a real difference in the temp of that block.  Lots of mass there.  And I don't think cryo temps really do all that much to concrete.  Might be able to crack it with thermal stress.  It's not like rubber or plastic that goes past its glass transition temperature and is easily shattered.

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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2017, 07:36:16 AM »
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Re: You think your HOA is bad?
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2017, 07:42:59 AM »
It's just a hunk of concrete, likely not any kind of reinforcement. A few enthusiastic minutes with a proper sledge hammer will reduce it to manageable pieces.
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Re: You think your HOA is bad?
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2017, 08:24:13 AM »
HOAs get away with stuff like this because of what kind of contract the home owner signs.  If you give away your rights, you have none.

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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2017, 08:49:34 AM »
HOAs get away with stuff like this because of what kind of contract the home owner signs.  If you give away your rights, you have none.
I have a very hard time believing that an HOA contract covers this sort of thing, or that an HOA would survive the liability lawsuits should their enthusiastic pursuit of overdue fees delay prompt medical treatment or something.

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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2017, 09:06:19 AM »
I have a very hard time believing that an HOA contract covers this sort of thing, or that an HOA would survive the liability lawsuits should their enthusiastic pursuit of overdue fees delay prompt medical treatment or something.

This.  The typical remedy for nonpayment of HOA dues is legal action through the courts or some sort of action taken in conjunction with the sale of the home.

HOAs are not all-powerful and living in one doesn't make you a serf in fiefdom. 

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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2017, 09:21:26 AM »
This.  The typical remedy for nonpayment of HOA dues is legal action through the courts or some sort of action taken in conjunction with the sale of the home.

HOAs are not all-powerful and living in one doesn't make you a serf in fiefdom. 

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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2017, 09:27:44 AM »
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2017, 10:32:56 AM »
The laws have changed a lot in the past years, but I don't think that crap would EVER fly in Virginia. You can deny someone who is behind on their payments use of community property (pool, even parking spaces), but blocking free access to property and preventing travel? I'd have a lawyer on them so fast it wouldn't be funny.
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