Chicago yahoos torture developmentally-disabled man

[MillCreek]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/01/05/4-in-custody-after-group-beats-disabled-man-on-facebook-live-while-shouting-anti-trump-profanities-chicago-police-say/?utm_term=.65bfd12d9d05

And here's an idea: let's stream the torture on Facebook.   

[grampster]

It's already on my Facebook feed.

[Jamisjockey]

Waiting for a statement from the president.....
Not holding my breath.

[RevDisk]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38514759

Highlights

Injured the guy while live streaming, including removing part of his scalp
Kept a running commentary of racist and anti-Trump dialog
May have kept the guy kidnapped for two days
two male and two female, aged 18, African Americans, have been arrested

Police were particularly insightful.

Police Commander Kevin Duffin said the police would investigate whether a hate crime had taken place.

"They're young adults, and they make stupid decisions," he said, and, in reference to the language used, investigators would seek to "determine whether or not this is sincere or just stupid ranting and raving", he said.

Police also said there was a possibility that the incident would be considered a kidnapping.

There you have it. With video footage, they're unable to as yet determine if hate crime, kidnapping, etc have occurred but will investigate. It may have just been stupid ranting and raving. With the superior leadership of people like Kevin Duffin, no wonder why Chicago has such a low crime rate and a reputation for safety.

[RevDisk]

Also, call me funny, but this sort of behavior likely won't have the intended outcome of reduced support for Mr Trump. I'm not fond of the man, didn't vote for him and have severe reservations about it. But I'm even more leery of people attempting to influence politics through violence and terrorism.

[Ben]

Waiting for a statement from the president.....
Not holding my breath.

Because unlike incidents like Ferguson, he's going to decide to "wait for all the facts".  If roles in the video were reversed, there would already be 500 feds from DOJ, etc. descending on Chicago. Obama is probably the most racist president we have ever had.

Also what Rev said while I was typing. We don't know if this is a "hate crime"*.  


*Not that I like the term "hate crime". Crime is crime, but if you're going to use the term, you'd better apply it equally.

[grampster]

Wait, wait....the oppressed minorities are incapable of hate.  Only the privileged can be guilty of it.

[makattak]

Wait, wait....the oppressed minorities are incapable of hate.  Only the privileged can be guilty of it.

No. No. They are certainly capable of hate. What they are incapable of is RACISM, you see, because the hate is perfectly justified against their oppressors- like this privileged oppressor, the mentally disabled guy.

[Ben]

No. No. They are certainly capable of hate. What they are incapable of is RACISM, you see, because the hate is perfectly justified against their oppressors- like this privileged oppressor, the mentally disabled guy.

I just now heard on the TV that apparently a CNN commentator has stated that this is not racism because Trump was mentioned.

[makattak]

I just now heard on the TV that apparently a CNN commentator has stated that this is not racism because Trump was mentioned.

And, amusingly, I'd be willing to bet the very same commentator claimed in the fraudulent (that is, made-up) crimes against muslim girls who claimed that Trump was mentioned, that it was proof positive that racism was the motive.

[Perd Hapley]

I just now heard on the TV that apparently a CNN commentator has stated that this is not racism because Trump was mentioned.

Because it's not racist until you call somebody a "thug." THAT would be totally racist.

[Ben]

I'm wondering if the CNN commentator was Don Lemon, because it appears he said this was not evil, but just "bad home training".

http://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/01/05/seriously-watch-cnns-don-lemon-explain-why-chicago-kidnap-torture-suspects-arent-evil/

[Ben]

And the Chicago PD are now suggesting this was based on disability, not race. Apparently in an attempt not to call it a hate crime. Yet if he was targeted for a disability...?

http://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/01/05/fck-white-people-chicago-pd-young-man-likely-targeted-because-of-his-disability-not-race/

[brimic]

I'm waiting for the fake outrage from the SPLC.

[roo_ster]

I'm waiting for the fake outrage from the SPLC.

Gonna be a while, since the SPLC is hostile to white gentiles.

[wmenorr67]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/05/hate-crime-charges-filed-in-chicago-beating-shown-on-facebook-live.html

Charges include hate crime.

[Hawkmoon]

I just now heard on the TV that apparently a CNN commentator has stated that this is not racism because Trump was mentioned.

Well, I'm glad we got that resolved.     

[makattak]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/05/hate-crime-charges-filed-in-chicago-beating-shown-on-facebook-live.html

Charges include hate crime.

I note the reports don't state the nature of the hate crime. Who wants to bet that they will claim it's because of the victim's mental challenges and not because of the obvious racism?

[MillCreek]

^^^Having never looked into it, is a handicap or disability grounds for a hate crime?  When I read about them up here, hate crimes arise out of race, gender, sexual orientation and religious affiliation.  Perhaps that is unique to Washington.

[Ben]

^^^Having never looked into it, is a handicap or disability grounds for a hate crime?  When I read about them up here, hate crimes arise out of race, gender, sexual orientation and religious affiliation.  Perhaps that is unique to Washington.

Maybe I'm weird, but someone who is not fully functional, either physically or mentally, seems to me to be more of a candidate for actual "victim status" than any of those groups.

However, since the people who always cry "hate crime" seem to focus on skin color, it seems only fair that it should be included in this case, given the language in the video. They weren't screaming "FU retard!" at him.

[Perd Hapley]

However, since the people who always cry "hate crime" seem to focus on skin color, it seems only fair that it should be included in this case, given the language in the video. They weren't screaming "FU retard!" at him.

Or, "F the ADA."

[RevDisk]

^^^Having never looked into it, is a handicap or disability grounds for a hate crime?  When I read about them up here, hate crimes arise out of race, gender, sexual orientation and religious affiliation.  Perhaps that is unique to Washington.

Yes, it is.

[Angel Eyes]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disability_hate_crime

n the United States, the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009 expanded the 1969 United States federal hate-crime law to include crimes motivated by a victim's actual or perceived disability.

Looks like Federal charges are a possibility (although as Ben noted, the perps did not verbally articulate hatred of the disabled, but hatred of white people and of Trump specifically).

[Monkeyleg]

Wait, wait....the oppressed minorities are incapable of hate.  Only the privileged can be guilty of it.

According to my ultra-liberal, Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter niece, black people cannot be racist because they have been victims of racism. Only whites can be racist.

[Andiron]

Animals.

Can't say much else, as my thoughts are contrary to anything decent or polite.  I will say that if the exact reverse had happened when Obama was elected, the names of the guilty would be as reviled as Klebold or Harris.