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Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« on: January 17, 2017, 06:03:33 PM »
Sentence commuted.  [barf]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/17/obama-commutes-chelsea-mannings-sentence-for-leaking-army-documents.html

Nothing to say that wouldn't peg the APS Profane-O-Meters, so I'll just leave this here for y'all to peruse on your own.

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Obama Commutes Manning's sentence
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2017, 06:18:19 PM »
 Obama has commuted the sentence of Bradly Manning.

About the only positive I can come up with is maybe now the US taxpayer won't be paying for his dickectomy.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/17/obama-commutes-chelsea-mannings-sentence-for-leaking-army-documents.html

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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2017, 07:00:31 PM »
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2017, 08:31:45 PM »
Merginated sans comment.  Otherwise I would have to permaban myself....

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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2017, 09:15:05 PM »
Quote from: scout26 on January 17, 2017, 08:31:45 PM
Merginated sans comment.  Otherwise I would have to permaban myself....

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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2017, 09:23:50 PM »
I thought Snowden did less than that guy.  Maybe I am mis-remembering.  
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2017, 09:36:50 PM »
https://twitter.com/ChampionCapua/status/821506358449238016

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Rubio statement pointedly avoids the first name "Chelsea" in condemning Obama's commutation of the trans soldier's sentence


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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2017, 11:49:29 PM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on January 17, 2017, 06:18:19 PM

About the only positive I can come up with is maybe now the US taxpayer won't be paying for his dickectomy.


That was my immediate reaction.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2017, 08:16:07 AM »
What is have in store for the goat humping Bergdahl?
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2017, 01:43:44 PM »
I'd still like to see a breakdown by ethnicity of the many, many people who he's pardoned or commuted.

The utter absence of comment on this in the news media is . . . suggestive.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2017, 01:56:37 PM »
Quote from: HankB on January 18, 2017, 01:43:44 PM
. . . suggestive.

Suggestive?  Have you been in a coma for the last 8 years?  There is no "suggestive" bias in most of the media.  The bias is blatant and unrepentant.  In many cases the bias is celebrated.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2017, 02:50:23 PM »
The thing that baffles me is how much praise Obama is getting for this - as if he wasn't the man in charge when she committed these offences, was arrested for them, was charged with them, was convicted for them and was held under the conditions that she has been.  He isn't even releasing her at once, just dangling her in front of Trump for three months. 
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2017, 03:35:27 PM »
"She"? "Her"? Last time I heard, Manning still had a penis.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2017, 03:53:29 PM »
Quote from: Monkeyleg on January 18, 2017, 03:35:27 PM
"She"? "Her"? Last time I heard, Manning still had a penis.

Even if it didn't, can't change DNA.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2017, 04:03:31 PM »
Quote from: wmenorr67 on January 18, 2017, 03:53:29 PM
Even if it didn't, can't change DNA.

He'll probably go back to being "Bradley" as soon as he's out of prison.  The whole Chelsea thing was a ruse, and Obama fell for it (probably wanted a date.)  JMO
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2017, 04:06:49 PM »
Well there you go...... it was a tough time for Brad.   ;/


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“Chelsea Manning has served a tough prison sentence, so the notion that the average person who is thinking about disclosing vital classified information would think that it goes unpunished, I don’t think would get that impression from the sentence that Chelsea Manning has served,” Obama argued.

Citing the time served and saying Manning’s sentence was “disproportionate,” Obama said: “It made sense to commute, and not pardon, her sentencing.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/18/obama-defends-manning-commutation-amid-criticism-claims-justice-was-served.html



Isn't prison supposed to be tough, well all except for the Fed lockup in Lompoc. ;)


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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2017, 04:31:21 PM »
Quote from: zxcvbob on January 18, 2017, 04:03:31 PM
The whole Chelsea thing was a ruse
Well I guess it was an effective one, seems to be a lot of focus on the guy's dick / no dick situation.  

After seeing Clinton & Petraeus avoid jail for mishandled classified info, Snowden idolized in a movie, and Assange being quoted by the president elect, I can't say I'm too surprised to see Manning's sentence cut short. Leaks are just an accepted part of the game now.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2017, 05:55:59 PM »
Quote from: BobR on January 18, 2017, 04:06:49 PM
Isn't prison supposed to be tough, well all except for the Fed lockup in Lompoc. ;)

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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2017, 08:28:38 PM »
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“Chelsea Manning has served a tough prison sentence, so the notion that the average person who is thinking about disclosing vital classified information would think that it goes unpunished, I don’t think would get that impression from the sentence that Chelsea Manning has served,” Obama argued.

Citing the time served and saying Manning’s sentence was “disproportionate,” Obama said: “It made sense to commute, and not pardon, her sentencing.”

Let's see. We have a sailor doing a year for taking a selfie aboard a submarine. I haven't heard anything about him photographing top secret equipment, but just for breaking the rule of no photos.

Manning disclosed thousands of classified documents that would have been useful to Al Queda, the Taliban, and other bad actors. The documents compromised some of our troops' activities, and also compromised collaborators. In WWII he would have been executed. But now seven years is "disproportionate"?
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2017, 09:28:01 PM »
Quote from: DittoHead on January 18, 2017, 04:31:21 PM
Well I guess it was an effective one, seems to be a lot of focus on the guy's dick / no dick situation.  

After seeing Clinton & Petraeus avoid jail for mishandled classified info, Snowden idolized in a movie, and Assange being quoted by the president elect, I can't say I'm too surprised to see Manning's sentence cut short. Leaks are just an accepted part of the game now.
Did Assange ever personally mishandle or steal our classified information?  I thought he just received it from people who did.  I am sure there are lots of other examples besides him.
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Re: Obama Commutes Manning's sentence/Manning to go free
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2017, 10:27:13 PM »
Quote from: Monkeyleg on January 18, 2017, 08:28:38 PM
Let's see. We have a sailor doing a year for taking a selfie aboard a submarine. I haven't heard anything about him photographing top secret equipment, but just for breaking the rule of no photos.

Manning disclosed thousands of classified documents that would have been useful to Al Queda, the Taliban, and other bad actors. The documents compromised some of our troops' activities, and also compromised collaborators. In WWII he would have been executed. But now seven years is "disproportionate"?

Actually, the equipment he photographed would have been at the minimum "confidential" depending on where in the engineering spaces he took the shot.
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2017, 12:11:03 AM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on January 18, 2017, 10:27:13 PM
Actually, the equipment he photographed would have been at the minimum "confidential" depending on where in the engineering spaces he took the shot.

One report I read said there was a sonar screen in the background.
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