Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying

[Ben]

Looks like it's time for Harrison Ford to quit the flying thing.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/02/14/report-harrison-ford-messes-up-landing-ca-airport/97911170/

[K Frame]

Maybe he was trying to make the Kessel run in something less than an inappropriate unit of measurment...

[41magsnub]

He's fine at the flying thing.  Landing is his problem.

[Ben]

Maybe he was trying to make the Kessel run in something less than an inappropriate unit of measurment...

 

[Angel Eyes]

He's fine at the flying thing.  Landing is his problem.

Yup.

https://youtu.be/WmwppdJlVVc?t=36

[KD5NRH]

Hmmm...20L...cleverly marked with a big "20L" at the end, some nice yellow chevrons to tell you to stay out of the overrun, and...well, that's about it.  I guess if he was watching toward the middle and didn't pay attention to the end, the taxiways could look pretty similar.

Not a great layout, though; looks like all the commercial terminals are on the east and about 2/3 of the GA on the west, with the big runway (20R/2L) on the west side and the little one on the east, so everybody's having to cross everything most of the time.

[TechMan]

YEEHAW

[MechAg94]

He's fine at the flying thing.  Landing is his problem.

His landings have been good enough so far.   

[Perd Hapley]

What happened? Did he land in a giant space whale again?

[Angel Eyes]

[Fly320s]

Meh.  Ford is getting up there in age and may need to quit flying, but there have been plenty of people that landed on taxiways, airline pilots included.

The only reason this story made the national news is because it was Ford flying the plane.

[Ben]

Meh.  Ford is getting up there in age and may need to quit flying, but there have been plenty of people that landed on taxiways, airline pilots included.

The only reason this story made the national news is because it was Ford flying the plane.

Age is where I was going with this, as it's his second incident in a year. Or he may want to start restricting himself to less busy airspace / airports, so there's less simultaneous information to process. Just like my dad is still fine driving into town, but I'd never let him drive through downtown LA anymore (hell, I don't even want to do that anymore).

[KD5NRH]

Meh.  Ford is getting up there in age and may need to quit flying, but there have been plenty of people that landed on taxiways, airline pilots included.

Isn't there something of an occasional push to have some sort of daytime taxiway marking?  Like green stripes every 50 feet or something?

Never really been an issue around here, since the only taxiway parallels the runway, and 80% of the traffic could easily land on it between intersections without making the slightest bit of difference.  The fact that it's half the width and lacks any sort of marklngs is usually a pretty good clue to move over to the big thing with lots of paint, though.

[Hawkmoon]

Age is where I was going with this, as it's his second incident in a year. Or he may want to start restricting himself to less busy airspace / airports, so there's less simultaneous information to process. Just like my dad is still fine driving into town, but I'd never let him drive through downtown LA anymore (hell, I don't even want to do that anymore).

THe previous incident was due to engine failure and was deemed not pilot error.

[Fly320s]

Isn't there something of an occasional push to have some sort of daytime taxiway marking?  Like green stripes every 50 feet or something?

Maybe.  I don't know.

Your next paragraph sums it up.

The fact that it's half the width and lacks any sort of marklngs is usually a pretty good clue to move over to the big thing with lots of paint, though.

If this was day VMC, then there is a big issue.  If it was night... well, sh*t happens.

[Ben]

THe previous incident was due to engine failure and was deemed not pilot error.

Oh, I misremembered that then.

[Fly320s]

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that Ford gets a FAA check flight.

[Unisaw]

SeaTac has had several airliners cleared for 16C land on the taxiway instead.  Supposedly, there can be quite a glare that obscures the runway markings, so they have issued special warnings about this.  Here's a link to page 2 of the IAP for runway 16C:

http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1702/00582IL16C_C.PDF

[Firethorn]

At least he landed at the right airport? 

I've known of several flights where the pilots managed to miss even that - both military and commercial.

IE The commercial flight lands at a military airport, and a military flight lands at a commercial one.

The heavy lift cargo plane realizing that they're committed to landing on a short strip and showing just how fast they can brake when they need to...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/21/travel/kansas-cargo-plane-wrong-airport/

[Hawkmoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHMhClzfoi8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi58Ds3Krgw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an-UgwM1V8g

[MechAg94]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHMhClzfoi8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi58Ds3Krgw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an-UgwM1V8g

I have seen one of those heavy lift Air Force jets land and take off at an air show.  I figure it was empty when I saw it, but it was amazing how little room it needed to land and take off.

[KD5NRH]

If this was day VMC, then there is a big issue.  If it was night... well, sh*t happens.

Take a look at the satellite view of the difference between 20L and 20R;  if he was just thinking "ignore the pretty runway and use the mixed-surface county-road looking thing east of it" then he just went one level of craptasticness too far.

[Jamisjockey]

Happens more than you think, and at airports without parallel runways too.  BTDT

Somewhere there is a pilot deviation with my name on it and the quote
...deemed it was more safe to let N12345 land on the taxiway rather than send him around and let him menace the sky for another lap in the pattern..."

[41magsnub]

At least he landed at the right airport?  

I've known of several flights where the pilots managed to miss even that - both military and commercial.

I was on a Delta flight many years ago coming into Great Falls, MT and was thinking the scenery looked all wrong.  Then we pulled up, turned away from Malmstrom AFB, and landed at Great Falls International as planned on the other side of town.

[TechMan]

Happens more than you think, and at airports without parallel runways too.  BTDT

Somewhere there is a pilot deviation with my name on it and the quote
...deemed it was more safe to let N12345 land on the taxiway rather than send him around and let him menace the sky for another lap in the pattern..."