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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2017, 11:48:52 AM »
Happens more than you think, and at airports without parallel runways too.  BTDT

Somewhere there is a pilot deviation with my name on it and the quote
...deemed it was more safe to let N12345 land on the taxiway rather than send him around and let him menace the sky for another lap in the pattern..."

Granddad once had a rather heated discussion with a small airport manager near Abilene who was complaining about him landing on the "taxiway" of a grass strip.  He'd spent plenty of time setting tail draggers down in pastures, and just aimed for the greenest path he could see in what looked to me like a ~80 yard wide lawn with some ruts along one side.  Apparently the manager thought it was better to have everybody keep chewing up the same slot rather than spread out the 3-4 takeoffs and landings a day over the whole usable surface.

And that was after a really steady tail-up landing where he didn't drop the back until just before turning off the "runway" area.  He threatened to land in their ~4 car parking lot next time he came through there in that Super Cub.

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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2017, 11:58:27 AM »
Airport managers can be morons.  The one at EFD tried telling us we couldn't let helicopters land in the hanger area.  Um...we pretty much can't stop them.
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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2017, 02:01:09 PM »
I remember hearing a story about a commercial airliner that accidentally landed at a military base - they allegedly were worried that some passengers may have seen or taken pictures of something secret so the .mil cops supposedly issued dire warnings about talking about the incident to everyone on the plane.

Another incident had a jetliner land at some really tiny airport - as I recall, the runway was too short for a normal takeoff, so they brought in a prize crew and took everything they possibly could off the plane (including seats and reserve fuel) to lighten it, waited for ideal weather conditions, and then took off, with a direct, pre-cleared flight to the nearest legitimate airport.
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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2017, 11:20:42 PM »
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I remember hearing a story about a commercial airliner that accidentally landed at a military base - they allegedly were worried that some passengers may have seen or taken pictures of something secret so the .mil cops supposedly issued dire warnings about talking about the incident to everyone on the plane.

Another incident had a jetliner land at some really tiny airport - as I recall, the runway was too short for a normal takeoff, so they brought in a prize crew and took everything they possibly could off the plane (including seats and reserve fuel) to lighten it, waited for ideal weather conditions, and then took off, with a direct, pre-cleared flight to the nearest legitimate airport.


The second incident you mentioned was a Piedmont Airlines 737 which landed at Daniel Field in Augusta, GA in 1986 (same field I learned to fly at). They didn't strip the seats out or anything but they did put in minimum fuel and flew it to Bush Regional, the original destination which is a very short 6 miles away. The pilot was flying a night visual approach  and was unfamiliar with the area. The tower at Bush had already closed for the night. He realized he was at the wrong airport while on short final and elected to land rather than attempt an abort.
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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2017, 07:42:51 AM »


The second incident you mentioned was a Piedmont Airlines 737 which landed at Daniel Field in Augusta, GA in 1986 (same field I learned to fly at). They didn't strip the seats out or anything but they did put in minimum fuel and flew it to Bush Regional, the original destination which is a very short 6 miles away. The pilot was flying a night visual approach  and was unfamiliar with the area. The tower at Bush had already closed for the night. He realized he was at the wrong airport while on short final and elected to land rather than attempt an abort.

Which is why we practice low altitude go-arounds now.  I've had the main gear bounce off the runway during a go around in the sim.  No big deal.
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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2017, 07:45:11 AM »
I think we all know Chewy was the real pilot in the team.  All Han does it get the jobs.

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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2017, 07:55:46 AM »
I think we all know Chewy was the real pilot in the team.  All Han does it get the jobs.

That means they are all...... Han jobs.
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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2017, 10:32:41 AM »
Happens more than you think, and at airports without parallel runways too.  BTDT

Somewhere there is a pilot deviation with my name on it and the quote
...deemed it was more safe to let N12345 land on the taxiway rather than send him around and let him menace the sky for another lap in the pattern..."


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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2017, 12:55:54 AM »
I have seen one of those heavy lift Air Force jets land and take off at an air show.  I figure it was empty when I saw it, but it was amazing how little room it needed to land and take off.

Are you thinking of the C-17? That thing is like a rocket ship. I saw it at the Dayton air show, pretty impressive.
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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2017, 12:58:07 AM »
That means they are all...... Han jobs.

I guffawed!
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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2017, 10:48:05 AM »
For your consideration, TACA Flight 110.
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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2017, 11:45:53 AM »
For your consideration, TACA Flight 110.


You can find an episode of Mayday: Air Crash Investigation on Youtube that's about this incident. To make it even better -- the pilot was blind in one eye.
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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2017, 05:56:12 PM »
Granddad once had a rather heated discussion with a small airport manager near Abilene who was complaining about him landing on the "taxiway" of a grass strip.  He'd spent plenty of time setting tail draggers down in pastures, and just aimed for the greenest path he could see in what looked to me like a ~80 yard wide lawn with some ruts along one side.  Apparently the manager thought it was better to have everybody keep chewing up the same slot rather than spread out the 3-4 takeoffs and landings a day over the whole usable surface.

And that was after a really steady tail-up landing where he didn't drop the back until just before turning off the "runway" area.  He threatened to land in their ~4 car parking lot next time he came through there in that Super Cub.


You mean like this?

https://youtu.be/bPSElw8qEsI

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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2017, 06:10:20 PM »
You mean like this?

https://youtu.be/bPSElw8qEsI

Heck, even unmodified, a Cub that isn't too heavily loaded can set down in an impressively small space.  Give it a 15-20mph headwind and a good pilot and that landing isn't too unusual.  No-wind roll for takeoff is 250ft and landing 300ft, so it doesn't take much to put those unnervingly close to zero.  Given a really good pilot with excellent timing and a strong gusting wind, it's possible to hover and set down vertical.  I've heard of them landing at negative ground speed, but even the braggarts that used to come through the local airport when granddad managed it never claimed to have had the guts to do it.

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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2017, 07:01:46 PM »
I've never landed going backwards, but I have had a negative ground speed.  A Cessna 150/152 with full flaps and a decent headwind.
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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2017, 08:39:27 PM »
Are you thinking of the C-17? That thing is like a rocket ship. I saw it at the Dayton air show, pretty impressive.

Local guard unit has 141s,  which are pretty impressive in that regard too.
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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2017, 11:23:50 AM »
I've never landed going backwards, but I have had a negative ground speed.  A Cessna 150/152 with full flaps and a decent headwind.

Tricycle gear is a little less...weird. 

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Re: Han Solo Needs to Quit Flying
« Reply #42 on: February 24, 2017, 12:31:55 PM »
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