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Re: Here we go...
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2017, 12:25:20 PM »
That was the one flaw in switching to Clipper "cigars;" pack a day only costs $600/year.  Saving ~$50/mo is a lot less urgent than saving the ~$200/mo that Camels were costing.
Given your preference for very low cost vehicles, $50/month is a car or two each year, no?

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« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2017, 12:45:27 PM »
Given your preference for very low cost vehicles, $50/month is a car or two each year, no?

One car, roughly, on average, not counting initial repair costs.  About 2 cars every 3 years with the cost of getting them roadworthy to my standards.

Of course, not having a car right now, insurance savings alone pay for the Clippers, and frankly, ~5 hours of cardio a week probably balances out the health effect compared to the average American.

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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2017, 01:49:05 PM »
One car, roughly, on average, not counting initial repair costs.  About 2 cars every 3 years with the cost of getting them roadworthy to my standards.

Of course, not having a car right now, insurance savings alone pay for the Clippers, and frankly, ~5 hours of cardio a week probably balances out the health effect compared to the average American.

So an engine that runs, a transmission to get it moving and four round tires.
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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2017, 02:42:30 PM »
So an engine that runs, a transmission to get it moving and four round tires.

And brakes.  I hate having to circle the block until I bleed off enough speed to stick a rock under the wheels.

And headlights.  I like good lighting.

And a stereo to cover up the assorted other noises until I get around to them.  Though I'm thinking I just need a receiver with amplified speaker outputs and a volume knob these days.  Bluetooth OBDII reader and a 7" tablet with a 128G microSD pretty much handles most entertainment and engine monitoring at a reasonable price and more flexibility than purpose-built car stereos.

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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2017, 03:44:44 PM »
And brakes.  I hate having to circle the block until I bleed off enough speed to stick a rock under the wheels.

And headlights.  I like good lighting.

And a stereo to cover up the assorted other noises until I get around to them.  Though I'm thinking I just need a receiver with amplified speaker outputs and a volume knob these days.  Bluetooth OBDII reader and a 7" tablet with a 128G microSD pretty much handles most entertainment and engine monitoring at a reasonable price and more flexibility than purpose-built car stereos.

 :facepalm:

I'd try to explain why I think you have the wrong perspective on money and vehicle safety, but I'm giving up and throwing in the towel. Please don't ever drive near the East Coast.
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« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2017, 04:37:14 PM »
I'd try to explain why I think you have the wrong perspective on money and vehicle safety, but I'm giving up and throwing in the towel. Please don't ever drive near the East Coast.

I've seen the traffic there.  Rather use a boat if I have to travel that area.

Though boat brakes tend to suck pretty bad too.

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« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2017, 11:48:06 PM »
That was the one flaw in switching to Clipper "cigars;" pack a day only costs $600/year.  Saving ~$50/mo is a lot less urgent than saving the ~$200/mo that Camels were costing.

Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.


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« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2017, 01:22:16 AM »
Guy at work killed a decades long smoking habit that way.

FWIW, I passed the 10 year mark last November.  And I was a 2 pack a day menthol smoker.  Did it cold turkey with the patch.  I say that not for the glory, but to say that if I could do it, as bad as I was, surely Irwin can do it just out of orneriness.   :laugh:
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« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2017, 06:42:12 AM »
110 hours. Going just fine. No cravings. Just the occasional "it would be nice to have a cigarette," which I quickly quash with "don't be a dumbass, dumbass!"

I'm noticing so many more benefits it's not even funny. Last night I got out in the back yard and did a bunch of cleanup, then carried two big bags of leaves and the garbage out to the curb. That used to leave me feeling as if I was going to collapse. Overall I have a lot more energy.

For years I've been having problems with edema in my right leg. Partially hereditary, but since I quit smoking, the edema has reduced dramatically by the end of the day. Food is tasting better, of course.

As someone mentioned, though, the dreams the last couple of nights have been quiet vivid and strange.
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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2017, 09:30:31 AM »
One car, roughly, on average, not counting initial repair costs.  About 2 cars every 3 years with the cost of getting them roadworthy to my standards.

Of course, not having a car right now, insurance savings alone pay for the Clippers, and frankly, ~5 hours of cardio a week probably balances out the health effect compared to the average American.

As a smoker your health isn't comparable to the "average american".  The average American is just obese and likely to die from symptoms of that.
You, however, are more likely to die from fun things like cancer and emphysema.  No amount of cardio will save you from that.  It'll just mean you're a skinny corpse when the day comes.
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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2017, 10:23:47 AM »
FWIW, I passed the 10 year mark last November.  And I was a 2 pack a day menthol smoker.  Did it cold turkey with the patch.  I say that not for the glory, but to say that if I could do it, as bad as I was, surely Irwin can do it just out of orneriness.   :laugh:
How does putting a patch on a turkey help? 
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« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2017, 11:21:59 AM »
The average American is just obese and likely to die from symptoms of that.

Obese and sedentary and full of random junk food.  (It's definitely possible to eat enough healthy food to be obese while still being quite active.  After all, cows are vegans and walk everywhere and they still get fat.)  Tends to lead to not doing a whole lot of real living before the dying part.

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« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2017, 12:43:52 AM »
How does putting a patch on a turkey help? 

Smartass!   :laugh:
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« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2017, 06:32:53 AM »
"Did it cold turkey with the patch."

Is that anything like Andre Cold Duck?


Holy crap, that made me think about the sparkling wines that were all the rage in the 1970s, which made me remember a Christmas commercial for Andre from that time frame...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGOr3s1VEYI

God, talk about bringing back memories...
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« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2017, 01:32:06 PM »
"Did it cold turkey with the patch."

Is that anything like Andre Cold Duck?


Holy crap, that made me think about the sparkling wines that were all the rage in the 1970s, which made me remember a Christmas commercial for Andre from that time frame...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGOr3s1VEYI

God, talk about bringing back memories...

I have enough strange dreams without having to endure yours as well.... :P
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« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2017, 01:44:39 PM »
Holy crap, that made me think about the sparkling wines that were all the rage in the 1970s,

Ah...a surreptitiously obtained bottle of Ripple and a soon-to-be-obtained impressively stacked brunette...

Yeah, those were the days.

Wait a minute...I was 4 in 1980...how old was that bottle of Ripple by 1991?

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« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2017, 06:05:12 PM »
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« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2017, 07:26:12 PM »
Oh!!!  I have the perfect motivational patch for Mike:




Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants won't help.


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« Reply #43 on: February 23, 2017, 12:58:07 PM »
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« Last Edit: February 23, 2017, 01:25:58 PM by Mike Irwin »
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« Reply #44 on: March 04, 2017, 01:56:54 PM »
Mike,
How's it going, where you at with this?
The knowledge that the malaise will disappear on that first puff isn't worth the the self loathing when I crumple a pack of 18 sticks and throw it out the window in disgust.
Even today, 17 years later, I think to myself "If I was still smoking, I'd smoke RIGHT NOW!"
Just quit again if you need to.  Sooner or later you won't be a smoker anymore.

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« Reply #45 on: March 04, 2017, 04:29:23 PM »
Oh!!!  I have the perfect motivational patch for Mike:





Isn't he trying to avoid the suck?
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« Reply #46 on: March 04, 2017, 05:41:34 PM »
Well, I just passed 16 full days (hour wise) since my last smoke.

Averaging a pack a day, so far I have:

NOT smoked 320 cigarettes (averaging a pack a day when I quit)

NOT spent $96.20 (figuring roughly $6 a pack)

Regained 1 day, 13.4 hours of life.

Even better, the edema in my right leg is markedly better. That's the leg that I've had routine bouts of cellulitis in. Hopefully with the increased circulation that comes with quitting I won't have nearly the problems.

There have been some times when I'd really liked to have had a cigarette, but those have passed pretty quickly and I don't think that they were really fullbore cravings.

I'm 2 weeks into my initial nicotine patch set -- 4 weeks on the highest, 4 weeks on medium, then 2 to 4 weeks on the lowest.

I'm fully committed to quitting. I've spent enough money on cigarettes.
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« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2017, 08:41:17 AM »
Little update on this...

Right after Memorial Day, after finding out about Mom's will, I fell off the wagon. HARD.

For 3 days.

The second I left town, I climbed right back on the wagon and have been on it ever since.

Taking into account those 3 days...

I have been smoke free for 129 days.

I have passed on 2600 cigarettes.

And I have saved about $780.

All in all, I recognize just how easy a time I've had quitting.
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« Reply #48 on: June 29, 2017, 12:46:00 PM »
Well done. Stay with it -- your lungs will thank you.
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« Reply #49 on: August 08, 2017, 11:42:20 AM »
Update on this...

With all the stress over the last couple of months, I've started smoking again, unfortunately.

I made it nearly 4 months before I fell off the wagon, requit for a couple of weeks, and then started again -- hard and heavy.

sigh.
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