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Cyanide mine kills dog, injuries boy in Idaho.
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« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2017, 01:19:15 PM »

Well, you're supposed to take great care in using pest control methods to avoid affecting non-target species.

I guess they didn't.

The real solution to avoiding non-target species is to use a fairly accurate rifle on coyotes and re-institute bounties for them.  But noooooo.  Gunses is baddyness, ick, poo, yuck.

At one point in time the State of Colorado offered a rather large bounty (for the time) for coyotes.  They seem to have stopped that, but the farm associations then offered the bounties privately.  Don't know what the present status is, haven't done any varmint hunting for decades.

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« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2017, 04:29:28 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2017, 05:52:42 PM »

At one point in time the State of Colorado offered a rather large bounty (for the time) for coyotes.  They seem to have stopped that, but the farm associations then offered the bounties privately.  Don't know what the present status is, haven't done any varmint hunting for decades.


I wish my state would put a bounty on coyotes -- or coydogs, or whatever it is we have around here. Coyotes are not native to this corner of the U.S., but they're here and they're becoming more of a nuisance every year.
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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2017, 06:26:03 PM »

We see coyotes trotting through the yard and around the neighborhood about once a week.  Two feet high at the shoulder, I estimate.
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« Reply #29 on: March 20, 2017, 06:53:02 PM »

Have a ton of 'yotes around here but I am worried about them doing this with hogs.
Landowners can shoot on sight but we can not hunt them. They think if we can hunt them more people will turn them loose in the state.
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« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2017, 07:26:27 PM »

Have a ton of 'yotes around here but I am worried about them doing this with hogs.
Landowners can shoot on sight but we can not hunt them. They think if we can hunt them more people will turn them loose in the state.

"Hunting opportunity" is in my opinion a significant contributor to the rise of feral hog problems in much of the US.
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« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2017, 07:48:38 PM »

Used in my county for yote control. Just another reason to keep my dog close to home when I lived in a more rural part.
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« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2017, 08:24:11 PM »

The controlled burns have multiple aspects. As in Mike's example, you have the "oh well" thing when the gov does it, but then you only have to look at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge occupation, which centered on the gov sending private individuals to jail for a controlled burn, which as  I recall, mostly went right.
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Whether controlled burns or trapping pests or what have you, common sense seems to be all too often lacking in the implementation. The point is that private individuals are generally punished for their carelessness while gov generally is not punished.

The local sheriff in the Idaho case IMHO should arrest some DoA supervisor.  Not sure the exact charges but it should be a felony; Reckless endangerment, or something. Handcuffs, perp walk, the whole deal.  When they protest and claim immunity, say something like "I'm just trying to keep you from getting lynched"  Say it loud enough to telegraph the idea to the locals.

If the boy had died instead of the dog, I think someone swinging from a lamppost would be quite appropriate if no other means of justice was available.
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« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2017, 06:15:25 AM »

That is horrific.
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« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2017, 06:48:41 AM »

It's OK when the government does it. They know what they're doing.

Like in New Mexico in 2000 when the forest service decided to do a controlled burn in the Los Alamos area.

In the middle of a drought.

And in high *expletive deleted*ing wind conditions.

About a dozen of my coworkers lost property, more than a few lost pretty much everything, including pets, when the "controlled" burn became the uncontrolled, 48,000 acre Cerro Grande fire.

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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2017, 07:11:59 AM »

It's OK when the government does it. They know what they're doing.

Like in New Mexico in 2000 when the forest service decided to do a controlled burn in the Los Alamos area.

In the middle of a drought.

And in high *expletive deleted*ing wind conditions.

About a dozen of my coworkers lost property, more than a few lost pretty much everything, including pets, when the "controlled" burn became the uncontrolled, 48,000 acre Cerro Grande fire.



The controlled burns have multiple aspects. As in Mike's example, you have the "oh well" thing when the gov does it, but then you only have to look at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge occupation, which centered on the gov sending private individuals to jail for a controlled burn, which as  I recall, mostly went right.

Then on the other side, NOT doing controlled burns, you end up with California. We've had year long fire seasons for several years not only because of the drought, but because the econazis kept suing to stop controlled burns. Combustible vegetation got so out of hand that natural fires (or even arson) that might have been contained early, become spectacular blazes that can't be stopped.

Whether controlled burns or trapping pests or what have you, common sense seems to be all too often lacking in the implementation. The point is that private individuals are generally punished for their carelessness while gov generally is not punished.
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« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2017, 07:15:10 AM »

There've been a couple of controlled burns around here which weren't.  Some less worse than others.

What bothers me is:

1.  Farmers who get an ag burn permit and then figure, "Wul hell, I gots me a burn permit, so nothing can happen if I just burn them weeds under them pine trees. I gotta piece of paper which says it's OK."  As if the permit itself prevented forest fires.

2. Citified folks who just toss cigarette butts into the forest litter as if the whole world is surfaced with concrete and asphalt.

3.
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« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2017, 07:51:32 AM »

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We have to stop asking if they can get more stupid. Because the dumb shits are taking it as a challenge apparently.


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« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2017, 07:52:18 AM »

What's number 3?

Stealth controlled burns by UN agents?

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« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2017, 07:57:13 AM »

And often private homeowners are prevented from clearing space around their home as a fire break. 
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« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2017, 08:01:57 AM »

We see coyotes trotting through the yard and around the neighborhood about once a week.  Two feet high at the shoulder, I estimate.
Well, now you know who to call to get some help.   grin
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« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2017, 09:00:51 AM »

Well, now you know who to call to get some help.   grin

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« Reply #42 on: March 21, 2017, 10:37:20 AM »



It is because of this:

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« Reply #43 on: March 21, 2017, 11:19:44 AM »

It is because of this:



Nice outfit, I see you opted for neither the tie or bow tie.
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« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2017, 11:28:50 AM »

Nice outfit, I see you opted for neither the tie or bow tie.

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« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2017, 11:53:20 AM »

I have to ask, because I'm not about to do the requisite search, is that a brony or has Rainbow Brite gotten a deviant following as well?
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« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2017, 12:11:24 PM »

I have to ask, because I'm not about to do the requisite search, is that a brony or has Rainbow Brite gotten a deviant following as well?

When I did a Google image search for 'my little pony cosplay male', that was one of the images that came up.
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« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2017, 01:26:11 PM »

When I did a Google image search for 'my little pony cosplay male'
... as one does.
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« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2017, 06:48:58 PM »

I have to ask, because I'm not about to do the requisite search, is that a brony or has Rainbow Brite gotten a deviant following as well?

As far as I know, Rainbow Brite has been regulated to sexy Halloween costumes for the ladies.
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« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2017, 07:31:52 PM »

I think there would be a rash of random deaths at .Gov agency related to the death of my kid or dog.
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