So I Guess Beheading in Effigy is OK Now

[Perd Hapley]

http://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/05/31/doh-this-kathy-griffin-tweet-from-just-last-week-didnt-age-well/

[Jamisjockey]

Destroying effigies of political folks you don't like has been OK for.....IDK..... Centuries?  Don't act like this is something new.

The only sorta new part is it being a semi-relevant washed up celebrity.  And even that isn't all that novel, as making politically edgy statements is a tried and true way to get press.  See: Ted Nugent.


obama effigies
George W Bush effigy
Bill Clinton Effigy
Ronald Reagan effigy


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James Taylor burned in effigy outside white house in 1841


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Sons of Liberty hang effigies of British officials in 1765


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I could probably hunt down an instance of a Caesar being burned in effigy but you get the point.  Fake outrage is fake.

This. All this.
People on the right put up "Rope" posters of Obama for *expletive deleted*ck's sake.

[Ben]

This. All this.
People on the right put up "Rope" posters of Obama for *expletive deleted*ck's sake.

Though I think a legitimate point of discussion is, how many well known people (celebrities, business leaders, even politicians, etc.) did that stuff vs rednecks in brodozers? The argument would be that you might expect such free speech behavior from rednecks and antifas, but the well known people mainstream it. In the same way they helped mainstream, "you can't say anything negative about Obama because he's black."

Again, for me it goes back to the recent dichotomy from the SJWs of "not a word about our guy, but anything against your guy is cool, and you're not allowed to call us out on it."

[MikeB]

It's a free speech issue. She shouldn't legally be barred from taking that picture and she should be allowed to publish or post it anywhere she likes that will allow her to do so; legally speaking.

That doesn't mean people can't criticize her for it and it doesn't mean an employer, sponsor, event organizer, what have you can't choose to no longer do business with her for doing the photo.

As for her apology, that was only because she suddenly realized this was going to mean a loss of business for her.

[Perd Hapley]

This. All this.
People on the right put up "Rope" posters of Obama for *expletive deleted*ck's sake.

Huh?

[Ben]

Some thoughts on this that I agree with (given it's applied across the political spectrum):

http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/06/01/post-kathy-griffin-iowahawk-offers-up-advice-to-end-the-mutually-assured-butthurt/

[Perd Hapley]

Some thoughts on this that I agree with (given it's applied across the political spectrum):

http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/06/01/post-kathy-griffin-iowahawk-offers-up-advice-to-end-the-mutually-assured-butthurt/

I'm not sure what Iowahawk is smoking. The ganja of moral equivalence? The fact that some people abuse the concept of being offended doesn't mean that no one can be, or should be, legitimately offended by, say, a celebrity posing with the bloody "head" of a politician whose worst crime is getting more electoral votes than Hillary Clinton.

Sure, it'd be great if the college America-hating clubs all got expelled, or whatever it is he's demanding, but it's also acceptable for wacko-lefties to occasionally be reminded that Republican politicians are not vogelfrei.

[Monkeyleg]

"vogelfrei"


I love it when you speak German.

[MechAg94]

Huh?

Most of the incidents I heard about were done by black activists in order to blame white people. 

[Ben]

Well, she's hired a lawyer due to "Trump family bullying".  I take back my agreement with Iowahawk. She now deserves everything bad that may come her way.

http://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/06/01/climate-disaster-averted-world-to-end-friday-during-kathy-griffin-presser-on-being-bullied-by-trump-family/

[Perd Hapley]

"vogelfrei"


I love it when you speak German.

I don't think I used it correctly, but at least you enjoyed it.

[TommyGunn]

"Vogelfrei"  just means "outlaw," doesn't it?

[Scout26]

Destroying effigies of political folks you don't like has been OK for.....IDK..... Centuries?  Don't act like this is something new.

James Taylor burned in effigy outside white house in 1841

Late to this one....

I think the guy is hack songwriter, crappy guitarist, and mediocre vocalist.  And when Kerry sent him to Paris, I lost what little respect I had for the guy.  But he was such a nothing to me that I won't think anyone would burn him in effigy outside the White House....Wait...When ?!?!

[Ben]

The terrible things happening to victim Kathy Griffin have never happened before to anyone in the known universe ever.

http://twitchy.com/sd-3133/2017/06/02/he-broke-me-kathy-griffin-cries-that-shes-the-victim-of-older-white-guy-donald-trump/

[p12]

Maybe she should learn Spanish and take her show on a more southern route.


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[Angel Eyes]

http://www.vulture.com/2016/12/kathy-griffin-comedy-should-go-hard-on-trump.html

"So I’m happy to deliver beat down to Donald Trump — and also to Barron. You know a lot of comics are going to go hard for Donald, my edge is that I’ll go direct for Barron. I’m going to get in ahead of the game.”

Stay classy, Kathy.

[Ben]

http://www.vulture.com/2016/12/kathy-griffin-comedy-should-go-hard-on-trump.html

Stay classy, Kathy.

So does the Internet coming back to bite her in the ass make her a victim of the Internet as well? Seems like that would be Al Gore's fault.

[Monkeyleg]

I'm sure Donald Trump has nothing better to do with his time than to go after her, when his supporters will be more than happy to do so.

[Hawkmoon]

But the left said the President's kids were off limits ... when Obama was President.

http://ntknetwork.com/kathy-griffin-has-no-problem-going-after-barron-trump/

“I’m happy to deliver beat down to Donald Trump — and also to Barron. You know a lot of comics are going to go hard for Donald, my edge is that I’ll go direct for Barron. I’m going to get in ahead of the game,” Griffin said in the December 2016 interview.

[Hawkmoon]

So does the Internet coming back to bite her in the ass make her a victim of the Internet as well? Seems like that would be Al Gore's fault.

I doubt the Internet would want to bite her ugly, scrawny ass.

Kick it, perhaps ...

[Ben]

I am now entertained.

http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2017/06/02/kathy-griffins-attorney-lisa-bloom-accuses-keith-olbermann-of-mansplaining-how-to-stand-up-to-trump/

[Perd Hapley]

None will be shocked to learn that Griffin's lawyer is the spawn of Gloria Allred.

[Scout26]

I'm not understanding (not that I'm really following this, other than anxiously awaiting the Secret Service raid and frog march of her into a .gov car) how she was "bullied" by Donald Trump ??

The afore mentioned Secret Service perchance, The Donald personally? 

Help me out here.

[Perd Hapley]

Amy, I think it's because "bullying" means failing to fall in line with left-wing lunacy. Declining to bake that cake, IOW.

[230RN]

And depicting a person's severed bloody head isn't bullying, it's free speech, right?

Once again, as Ben has iterated several times, it's the double standard that bothers me.