USS Fitzgerald struck by Phillipine freighter

[Hawkmoon]

I think it was implied that hatches were closed that prevented some sailors from getting out of flooded areas, but maybe I read it wrong. 

That was known and reported immediately after the incident.

[freakazoid]

From what I had heard they got as many people as they could out of berthing until the last minute when they had to close the hatches to keep the whole ship from flooding.

[dogmush]

The Navy released their report on this and the USS John McCain collision yesterday.  It's unclass so I'll link to the PDF below.  It's some detailed reading, and sobering in places.

The TL:DR version is that both ship's crews weren't trained properly.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/CHINFO/USS+Fitzgerald+and+USS+John+S+McCain+Collision+Reports.pdf

[dogmush]

Slight thread Necro:

Both CO's and some junior officers on the Fitzgerald are being charged criminally.  Charges include negligent homicide.

From what I gather this isn't a show trial by some overreaching DA.  The Navy thinks it'll be able to convict on homicide charges.

Of note, and not explicitly mentioned was that the XO and Ops officer of the McCain are in the logbook as recommending a different course of action and were overruled by the CO.  The McCain's junior officers aren't being charged so that might have saved them.

https://news.usni.org/2018/01/16/former-fitzgerald-mccain-cos-face-negligent-homicide-dereliction-duty-charges-fatal-collisions

[Scout26]

I wonder if they get hit with Reports of Survey for the damage as well.  There's no limit on what Officers can be made to pay....

[RoadKingLarry]

Slight thread Necro:

Both CO's and some junior officers on the Fitzgerald are being charged criminally.  Charges include negligent homicide.

From what I gather this isn't a show trial by some overreaching DA.  The Navy thinks it'll be able to convict on homicide charges.

Of note, and not explicitly mentioned was that the XO and Ops officer of the McCain are in the logbook as recommending a different course of action and were overruled by the CO.  The McCain's junior officers aren't being charged so that might have saved them.

https://news.usni.org/2018/01/16/former-fitzgerald-mccain-cos-face-negligent-homicide-dereliction-duty-charges-fatal-collisions

Getting something wrote down in the deck log can definitely be a butt saver. Worked for me twice.

[HankB]

Getting something wrote down in the deck log can definitely be a butt saver. Worked for me twice.

Written records can be a butt saver in business as well as in the military, as I found out VERY early in my working career.

[RoadKingLarry]

I carried my CYA tactics to civvie life.
I keep a MAD* file as well.




*Mutually Assured Destruction.

[Hawkmoon]

+1 on the MAD files.

Back to the topic (if I may be so bold): In addition to the ships' commands, two senior admirals higher up in the food chain are also taking early retirements as part of the fallout.