Author Topic: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby  (Read 5136 times)

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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2017, 11:35:54 PM »
This is social justice warrioring on steroids. Notice all the markers:

  • There's ONE child but, in order to avoid "labeling" it a "he" or a "she," the parental unit refers to it as “Often I’ll just say I don’t know yet, or I’m not rushing to apply those types of labels on this kid. Right now they’re just a baby.” [Grammatical note: "They" is a plural pronoun.]
  • The spokesparent seems to be (probably) the mother, but notice that no gender is identified for him/her/it. It's just "the parent" -- as if this was a case of a hermaphrodite parental unit. "B.C. baby first to get health card without gender marker. 'For us, it’s a huge step forward,' the baby's parent said "
  • And the lawyer doesn't want her its name capitalized. WTF? That's a grammatical issue, not a gender issue, you twit [lower case].
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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2017, 11:57:38 PM »
It rubs the lotion on it's skin?  =|

Referring to a child as "they" seems like a good way to screw "them" up.

This nonsense has all the hallmarks of a mental disorder. Replacing clear cut reality with imagination, what is scary is the law seems to follow suit by forcing people to accept the imagination of a few. NO, just because you think you are of the opposite gender doesn't make you so... and forcefully creating ambiguity in the development of a child's self image is not good at all.
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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2017, 12:03:24 AM »
Well, I for one hope that the kid, like I did a few times, tells the parents off and that "I'm a boy/girl!" and settles the issue before too long.

No, I didn't ever have to tell my parents my gender, but I did express my desire/dislike for something a few times.

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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2017, 12:16:16 AM »
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Right now they’re just a baby.

So she thinks it's plural.  :facepalm:
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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2017, 12:28:47 AM »
When said kid stabs the parents in their sleep one night I feel that it should be a free pass


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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2017, 01:10:12 AM »
When said kid stabs the parents in their sleep one night I feel that it should be a free pass


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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2017, 07:58:56 AM »
So she thinks it's plural.  :facepalm:

"They" seems to be a common "identity" for some reason. It's like they really have no idea how words work, or maybe they actually have multiple personality disorder. :lol:
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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2017, 09:18:12 AM »
When said kid stabs the parents in their sleep one night I feel that it should be a free pass


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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2017, 09:29:21 AM »
Someone needs to watch Sleepaway Camp, cause this *expletive deleted*it didn't end well for those folks.

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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2017, 10:07:49 AM »
Someone needs to watch Sleepaway Camp, cause this *expletive deleted*it didn't end well for those folks.

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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2017, 11:46:43 AM »
What do you know.  Parent has a website.

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I’m Kori. I’m a community educator living in Sinixt Territory in occupied British Columbia, Canada. I am a non-binary genderqueer trans person with more than a decade of community facilitation experience. I have specialized in sexual health, harm reduction, community organizing, technical knowledge exchange and radical approaches to wellness.

Surprise!


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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2017, 11:48:13 AM »
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I’m Kori. I’m a community educator indoctrinator

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I have specialized in sexual health, harm reduction, community organizing, technical knowledge exchange and radical approaches to wellness using innocent children as my political props.

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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2017, 11:50:47 AM »
Yep. Someone's about to *expletive deleted*ck up their spawn and create a future special fruitcake.

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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2017, 01:32:04 PM »
What do you know.  Parent has a website.

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I wonder if "it" (the parental unit) had to take "its" web site down.

My, my, my ...

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I'm sure Kori doesn't see any irony in being a "binary genderqueer trans person" [whatever that is] and claiming to specialize in sexual health.

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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2017, 02:21:36 PM »
Yep. Someone's about to *expletive deleted*ck up their spawn and create a future special fruitcake.

One issue with the modern world is that a lot of crazy people find other people who share the same kind of crazy. Instead of negative reinforcement, they get validation. As the liberty minded person, I believe a person can have any type of crazy notion they like as long as all parties are consenting adult of legal age. If you want to believe your gender is mayonnaise and you sexually identify as an Apache attack helicopter, that's fine.

Forcing your beliefs on other people is where it gets much more grey. I'm leery of the jihad to force everyone else to believe the same fruitcake stuff. Tolerance is not enough for a lot of folks, of all different stripes. Acceptance is not enough. Validation is what they want. Not "Fine, if you want to have your gender listed as mayonnaise, I don't care" but rather "Yes, mayonnaise is a perfectly valid gender choice, and you are so brave for embracing mayonnaise as your gender. Death to any infidels who deny your true gender!"

I've seen plenty of adults who screw up their children by forcing warped ideologies on them. And not just the special fruitcakes. Plenty of wacko religions have been doing so since time immortal. For the same reason. They believe their ideology is correct, and it is their duty to indoctrinate their kid instead of allowing them to evaluate such things on their own merit. It's not going away anytime soon.
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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2017, 04:18:57 PM »
"Occupied British Columbia"?  I wonder if this person is part of a First Nations tribe in Canada and doesn't like high SPF people.
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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2017, 04:49:05 PM »
"Occupied British Columbia"?  I wonder if this person is part of a First Nations tribe in Canada and doesn't like high SPF people.

That was my thought, too, until I found a photo of "it" on-line. "It" appears to be a high SPF sort of ... entity. (Not sure if it's acceptable to refer to it as a "person," so I hope "entity" is socially acceptable.)
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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2017, 07:07:01 PM »
I wonder if "it" (the parental unit) had to take "its" web site down.

My, my, my ...

I'm sure Kori doesn't see any irony in being a "binary genderqueer trans person" [whatever that is] and claiming to specialize in sexual health.



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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2017, 07:10:09 PM »
"Occupied British Columbia"?  I wonder if this person is part of a First Nations tribe in Canada and doesn't like high SPF people.

Looks like a paleface to me.

Yep, this is it:

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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2017, 07:58:01 PM »
"They" seems to be a common "identity" for some reason. It's like they really have no idea how words work, or maybe they actually have multiple personality disorder. :lol:

These people (notice how skillfully I avoided the use of "they") want a word that doesn't carry a gender association, yet for a single person these same people studiously avoid using the simple, accepted, gender neutral pronoun indicative of a single entity: "it."

The time has come to mount the resistance. We need to shame the it-phobes of the world. Demand equal rights for the its!
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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2017, 09:25:59 PM »
^^^So is that a biological male?  Although I applaud the use of ear protection for the baby, and I can only assume they are at the range.
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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2017, 09:42:10 PM »
^^^So is that a biological male?  Although I applaud the use of ear protection for the baby, and I can only assume they are at the range.

Yes, the offspring appears to be a son.  To my eyes.
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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2017, 10:00:46 PM »
Yes, the offspring appears to be a son.  To my eyes.

At that age, it could go either way. That's why they make those cute little headbands for girls. Emily had some real adorable ones.
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Re: Canadian Parents Get "Genderless" ID for Their Baby
« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2017, 10:53:22 PM »
Yes, the offspring appears to be a son.  To my eyes.

I actually meant the adult.
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