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« on: July 24, 2017, 08:06:08 AM »

Lest "Russia Russia Russia" makes us forget, there was a lot of DNC hanky panky making the news only a few months ago.

The FBI has seized "smashed" hard drives from a Wasserman Schultz Aide. I found it interesting the he's supposedly an IT guy. Smashing a hard drive may or may not prevent data access, and then leaving them laying around your home or office isn't exactly brilliant. Maybe he nuked them first and the article just didn't mention it, or authorities don't know yet.

But anyway, "Trump and Russia!!!"

http://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2017/07/24/crooked-democrats-fbi-seizes-smashed-hard-drives-from-wasserman-schultz-it-aides-home/
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2017, 08:10:47 AM »

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...a Wasserman Schultz Aide...

Obviously a plant, sent by Trump's Russian masters.
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2017, 08:15:50 AM »

Open drive, remove platters, apply electric sander to ENTIRE surface of BOTH sides of ALL platters, cut platters into quarters, throw in a roaring HOT fire, then you MIGHT be fairly safe.
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2017, 08:24:06 AM »

Open drive, remove platters, apply electric sander to ENTIRE surface of BOTH sides of ALL platters, cut platters into quarters, throw in a roaring HOT fire, then you MIGHT be fairly safe.

Acetylene torch with a rosebud tip. Aluminum platters would last about ten seconds. Kinda hard to read data when it's re-formed into a smoldering pile of molten goo.

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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2017, 08:24:19 AM »

Open drive, remove platters, apply electric sander to ENTIRE surface of BOTH sides of ALL platters, cut platters into quarters, throw in a roaring HOT fire, then you MIGHT be fairly safe.

Pfft. You do things the hard way.

Thermite.  grin
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2017, 08:25:58 AM »

Pfft. You do things the hard way.

Thermite.  grin
Yep.  Which reminds me, it's almost time for my annual platter melt.  Have to check with clients to see what they're ready to burn.
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2017, 08:56:15 AM »

Open drive, remove platters, apply electric sander to ENTIRE surface of BOTH sides of ALL platters, cut platters into quarters, throw in a roaring HOT fire, then you MIGHT be fairly safe.

Brad is correct. Acetylene torch is faster and much more secure. It's listed somewhere in the appropriate manuals as an approved field expedient manner of destroying classified electronics. Which is how I convinced my boss to buy me a couple, just in case.
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2017, 10:07:49 AM »

Well then getting your boss to buy thermite grenades ought to be easy then.
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2017, 11:01:22 AM »

Open drive, remove platters, apply electric sander to ENTIRE surface of BOTH sides of ALL platters, cut platters into quarters, throw in a roaring HOT fire, then you MIGHT be fairly safe.

Throw them in a lake.  Gone.  Throw them out the window on a long country drive down random roads.  Gone. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2017, 11:30:25 AM »

Would a bulk tape eraser on the individual platters work?  That's a pretty strong oscillating field.  I kept one from long ago.  It's great for demagging tools and finding lost parts.

I figure switching magnetic domains from 1 to 0 and 0 to 1 sixty times a second ought to do the trick.

Also, with respect to the OP, there's probably a thumb drive or SDD card with all that data backed up and hidden in somebody's couch cushions somewhere.
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2017, 11:44:45 AM »

Smashing drives with a hammer is perfectly fine, imo, as long as it's not a three letter agency out to get you.

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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2017, 12:09:57 PM »

Throw them in a lake.  Gone.  Throw them out the window on a long country drive down random roads.  Gone. 

That can be a gamble. Sometimes it pays off. Like it did for Penn State's football program. Sometimes it doesn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Gricar#Disappearance

Torched always works.
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2017, 12:53:03 PM »

Cordless drill through in a couple places should be fine
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2017, 12:56:46 PM »

For the truly paranoid, you can drill, cut, and burn them; then you launch them on a rocket aimed at the sun. Should work.
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2017, 02:44:39 PM »

Nuke the platters from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.  Tinfoil Hat Smiley
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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2017, 04:27:28 AM »

When I've gotten rid of an old PC and removed the hard drives for disposal, I've sanded the disc surfaces with a belt sander, pounded them with a hammer, and then cut them into wedges.

Now I'm worried that someone may find the pieces in a landfill and reconstitute the data since I didn't melt them down with a blowtorch.   Tinfoil Hat Smiley

At work, physical damage to a company PC would be frowned on, so I've used a utility (BCWipe) to overwrite data files and free space multiple times with random 1s and 0s before giving up the old PC.
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2017, 05:34:20 AM »

When I've gotten rid of an old PC and removed the hard drives for disposal, I've sanded the disc surfaces with a belt sander, pounded them with a hammer, and then cut them into wedges.

Now I'm worried that someone may find the pieces in a landfill and reconstitute the data since I didn't melt them down with a blowtorch.   Tinfoil Hat Smiley

At work, physical damage to a company PC would be frowned on, so I've used a utility (BCWipe) to overwrite data files and free space multiple times with random 1s and 0s before giving up the old PC.
Throw the pieces in separate trash bags.  Take a few to trash cans at other locations.   grin
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2017, 05:46:32 AM »

Pfft!  Do it right, or don't bother.

https://www.amazon.com/Pounds-Aluminum-Powder-30-micron/dp/B00KF598X0

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https://www.amazon.com/Black-Iron-Oxide-Natural-Pounds/dp/B004KICAVU

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FWIW there are 4 drives in that picture.  I saved up until I had reason to mix a good sized batch.  That $40 or so in materials will keep you in drive destruction for a decade of normal person use.
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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2017, 06:47:34 AM »

Use one of these on the drive:  Tinfoil Hat Smiley
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2017, 07:51:41 AM »

I've found that a few well placed rounds from a .303 Eddystone P14 will do the job as well.
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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2017, 08:47:04 AM »

Throw the pieces in separate trash bags.  Take a few to trash cans at other locations.   grin

Yeah, take them to Maine and trade them in for a bag of weed.

http://www.wcsh6.com/news/local/clean-the-trash-off-the-street-get-free-weed/458844658
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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2017, 09:04:35 AM »

FWIW there are 4 drives in that picture.  I saved up until I had reason to mix a good sized batch.  That $40 or so in materials will keep you in drive destruction for a decade of normal person use.


I'm pretty sure normal people get rid of their old hard drives by selling the whole computer on Craig's List, or donating it to Goodwill.
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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2017, 11:03:20 AM »

Gettng back to the OP (After copying the Dogmush recipe):  I mentioned that this had started a while back.

http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=54740.0

Also, I haven't seen much on the DNC Donor Fraud Class Action Lawsuit down in Florida since May.   https://www.facebook.com/DNCfraudlawsuit/
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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2017, 01:46:29 PM »


I'm pretty sure normal people get rid of their old hard drives by selling the whole computer on Craig's List, or donating it to Goodwill.

I recently sold an older notebook computer in Craigs List. With a functioning hard drive in it.

First I ran a D.O.D. wipe program, then I did a pave-over and factory restore of the operating system. Does that make me normal, abnormal, or paranormal?
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« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2017, 02:42:33 PM »

I recently sold an older notebook computer in Craigs List. With a functioning hard drive in it.

First I ran a D.O.D. wipe program, then I did a pave-over and factory restore of the operating system. Does that make me normal, abnormal, or paranormal?


What?! You didn't destroy the hard drive in five different ways, some involving power tools and fire?

You gonna get hacked.

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