Author Topic: Fed appeals court - DC "good reason" conceal-carry requirment unconstitutional  (Read 1923 times)

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2-1 ruling saying the DC "good reason" requirement for obtaining concealed-carry permits constitutes a de facto ban.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/07/25/appeals-court-blocks-dcs-concealed-carry-law-on-second-amendment-grounds.html

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“The good-reason law is necessarily a total ban on most D.C. residents’ right to carry a gun in the face of ordinary self-defense needs,” Judge Thomas B. Griffith wrote, according to the paper. “Bans on the ability of most citizens to exercise an enumerated right would have to flunk any judicial test.”

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But, defending oneself against street crime isn't a good reason to need to carry a gun!

Because if we allow it, we have to admit that our long history of Democratically controlled local government is absolutely powerless to protect its citizenry and it shows the lie of the supposed Democrat utopia!

And we can't be having that now, can we?
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Finely!   Some  GOOD news! =D
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This is outrageous.

Now don't get me wrong. I stand four-square in defense of the second amendment right to bear arms for Really Important Purposes. You know, like shooting animals as a leisure activity. Or making holes appear in distant sheets of paper. Or for collecting, which is also obviously Very Important. But now we're going to allow the little people to have guns on the streets, just so they can not die, or not be raped?! Are they even serious about this?! Don't they know that's only for important people, like politicians?! How many sentences must I conclude with an interrobang to get my point across?!
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I wish I knew what an interrobang was..... :angel:
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Does anyone really expect Wash. DC to comply with this ruling?  Who or what would enforce it?
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I wish I knew what an interrobang was..... :angel:

Rule 34.

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Rule 34.


I wish I knew what rule 34 was.......
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I wish I knew what rule 34 was.......

It's the one after 33.

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It could be that "interrobang" is actually law enforcement slang for an interrogation that's gotten well outside of ethical guidelines. But I hope not.
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Have your people call my people.

It could be that "interrobang" is actually law enforcement slang for an interrogation that's gotten well outside of ethical guidelines. But I hope not.

So Rule 34 does apply after all.

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I use something like this, "WHAT?!?!"
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Does anyone really expect Wash. DC to comply with this ruling?  Who or what would enforce it?

The DC City Council was trying to be cute by "complying" with Heller and MacDonald, by providing a mechanism to apply for a permit, but by stipulating the "Good Reason" clause could deny every a CCW. 
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The DC City Council was trying to be cute by "complying" with Heller and MacDonald, by providing a mechanism to apply for a permit, but by stipulating the "Good Reason" clause could deny every a CCW.

I expect they will do something very similar this time around.  Or just flat ignore the ruling.
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hopefully this will lead to a scotus decision in our favor, I am really tired of no national reciprocity.
Peruta case really got me cynical, first 9th circuit says you dont need shall issue because unloaded open carry is legal, then CA makes unloaded open carry illegal and scotus refuses to take.
This case may help CA and national reciprocity, i am tired of waiting for it
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hopefully this will lead to a scotus decision in our favor, I am really tired of no national reciprocity.
Peruta case really got me cynical, first 9th circuit says you dont need shall issue because unloaded open carry is legal, then CA makes unloaded open carry illegal and scotus refuses to take.
This case may help CA and national reciprocity, i am tired of waiting for it

Risky. The balance at the SCOTUS is now the same as it was before Justice Scalia passed away, and we can't count on Roberts or Kennedy to support the 2A again.

Better would be passage of the national carry reciprocity bill. Paul Ryan reportedly killed that. Time for everyone to start flooding the White House and Ryan's office with letters and e-mail demanding that it be passed, and reminding them that national carry reciprocity was one of the planks that got the Republicans elected.
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