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Hummers at the feeder
« on: July 25, 2017, 09:42:08 PM »
Caught this little hummer at the feeder this evening. Light was failing so no the best but still pretty cool little bird.

IMG_8952-1 by lmmiers, on Flickr

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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2017, 10:41:58 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2017, 11:59:24 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2017, 06:29:59 AM »
Those are some cool shots, RKL.  You really have fun with that camera.

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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2017, 07:07:12 AM »
I'd like to have a hummer at the feeder.
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2017, 08:30:27 AM »
Quote from: Fly320s on July 26, 2017, 07:07:12 AM
I'd like to have a hummer at the feeder.

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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2017, 12:16:00 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2017, 12:24:59 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2017, 08:54:08 PM »
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Re: Hummers at the feeder
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2017, 09:13:09 PM »
I think the pics are more effective with the wing blurring.  I just looked it up --their wingbeats run around 80 per second --that's probably a maximum.

http://home.olemiss.edu/~larryago/hummingbirds/funfacts2.html

80 Hz:
https://youtu.be/nhc4u6nJSWk

Do you know the exposure time?  I'm thinking maybe about 1/250th, judging from the blur.

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« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2017, 09:17:31 PM »
I'd still like to try for a stop action shot just to prove I can do it.
Current effort is with film. Light wasn't great this evening but I think I got a few good ones. They don't seem to be too skittish so I'm going to try to get a little closer in the morning when the feeder is getting the early morning sun. If they spook with me too close I've got a 25' shutter release I'll try.
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« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2017, 10:28:50 PM »
Lemme see ...

80 wing beats per second. The wings move maybe 5 inches per beat (x2 -- up and down). 10 inches times 80 beats = 800 inches per second.

So ...

Even at a shutter speed of 1/1000 the wings will be moving 800/1000 = 0.8 inches. Not really stop action. Methinks you need a shutter speed of around 1/4000 of a second and, even at that speed, the wings will move 0.2 inches. Still not really stop action.
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2017, 11:35:00 PM »
My super nifty Canon F1 only does 1/2000, so on film won't happen.  =D
Currently loaded with Ilford HP5+ shooting at ASA 800. Only 1 stop over box speed so not a big push. Probably soup it in Microphen for the little bit of speed boost that will give me.

However, my marvel of technology Canon 70D DSLR will click at 1/8000, so... possible. I think I'll have to set the ISO(ASA) pretty high but it will be attempted.
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2017, 11:37:27 PM »
Quote from: 230RN on July 26, 2017, 09:13:09 PM
I think the pics are more effective with the wing blurring.  I just looked it up --their wingbeats run around 80 per second --that's probably a maximum.

http://home.olemiss.edu/~larryago/hummingbirds/funfacts2.html

80 Hz:
https://youtu.be/nhc4u6nJSWk

Do you know the exposure time?  I'm thinking maybe about 1/250th, judging from the blur.

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Heh.  Playing around with that frequency site.  This orta drive the household creatures nuts:

https://youtu.be/qNf9nzvnd1k

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Any images from my DSLR will show the exposure data if you click through to Flickr

On the freq test, even with my audio maxed out I was out by 15Khz
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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2017, 12:09:51 AM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on July 26, 2017, 11:37:27 PM
Any images from my DSLR will show the exposure data if you click through to Flickr

On the freq test, even with my audio maxed out I was out by 15Khz

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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2017, 01:05:44 AM »
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2017, 02:43:02 AM »
Quote from: Hawkmoon on July 26, 2017, 10:28:50 PM
Lemme see ...

80 wing beats per second. The wings move maybe 5 inches per beat (x2 -- up and down). 10 inches times 80 beats = 800 inches per second.

So ...

Even at a shutter speed of 1/1000 the wings will be moving 800/1000 = 0.8 inches. Not really stop action. Methinks you need a shutter speed of around 1/4000 of a second and, even at that speed, the wings will move 0.2 inches. Still not really stop action.

That's the way I was roughly figuring to get the 250th of a second.  Except I took the blurred portion estimated as a fraction (20-30%) of the full wing swing, and neglecting the sinusoidal-ish motion of the wing.

1 / (1/80 X .20 or .30 depending on the eyeball guesstimated fraction of the full wing swing.)

20% = 1/400th second
30%  = 1/266th second

So I figured 1/250th as a "standard" shutter speed.  (I know, newer cameras do not "open" to those oldey-timey fixed shutter speeds.  But Road King Larry said he was using a chemical camera, so that seemed reasonable as a SWAG.)

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