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« on: September 11, 2017, 07:27:08 PM »

http://abc3340.com/wanted-volunteer-shooters-to-thin-grand-canyon-bison-herd
Anybody else hear of this? Just like the title says, looks like the National Park Service is looking for volunteer hunters to help think out the here. Apparently they moved into an area that is normally non-hunting and are damaging park resources. Some of the models they are looking at, as it's still in  the planning phase, you must able to hike 6 miles a day with a 60 pound pack and be able to shoot a paper plate 200 yards away 5 times.
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2017, 07:46:12 PM »

They do that every now and then at Theodore Roosevelt National Park in North Dakota. I  applied a few years ago but no joy. I will probably apply for this one. I have a Italian Sharps that needs to be used for a buffalo. Wink

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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2017, 08:34:29 PM »

What caliber for bison?
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2017, 08:38:14 PM »

MillCreek - .338WM and up is great for bison.  .30-06 with 200gr bullets would probably work too. 
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« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2017, 08:58:06 PM »

MillCreek - .338WM and up is great for bison.  .30-06 with 200gr bullets would probably work too. 

I have a 308 Norma Mag that would probably do all right with the right bullets. If I could I would use the Sharps with a 405gr bullet  in 45-70. Using anything else would be insulting to the buffalo. Wink  Smiley

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« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2017, 09:15:39 PM »

If I got that chance I'd use my 9.3x62 for the hunt.  But your .308NM would certainly be effective.
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2017, 10:00:51 PM »

What caliber for bison?

.45-70, 70gr FF under 500gr cast lead bullet.
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2017, 03:03:43 AM »

.45-70, 70gr FF under 500gr cast lead bullet.


Seems like the only choice!
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2017, 10:13:32 AM »

What caliber for bison?

Just a .45 six-gun.



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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2017, 11:24:05 AM »

I would do it for the meat only, not the experience. A buddy of mine hunted bison and said he would never do it again. It's like hunting a bulldozer. The only challenge is dropping it where you can get it out.
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2017, 11:28:48 AM »

I would do it for the meat only, not the experience. A buddy of mine hunted bison and said he would never do it again. It's like hunting a bulldozer. The only challenge is dropping it where you can get it out.

I used to put in for a buffalo draw every year when I lived in Montana. Never got drawn. I had a friend lined up to go with me, he was getting the hide, the head, and some meat. Most of the meat was going home with me. Smiley

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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2017, 11:39:54 AM »

I would do it for the meat only, not the experience. A buddy of mine hunted bison and said he would never do it again. It's like hunting a bulldozer. The only challenge is dropping it where you can get it out.

After my first trip to Yellowstone, I realized why they were nearly exterminated. They have a bulldozer's situational awareness.
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2017, 11:49:56 AM »

Use 22 LR.  It is all in the shot placement.   grin
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2017, 11:53:59 AM »

After my first trip to Yellowstone, I realized why they were nearly exterminated. They have a bulldozer's situational awareness.

I know from personal experience that a 1968 Yamaha Catalina (250cc) 2 stroke traveling at appx 40mph has the knock down power to take a medium sized buffalo off of its feet but it won't stay down. They are nearly as solid as a bulldozer also.
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2017, 12:34:02 PM »

So.... how about a killdozer for the bison?
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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2017, 12:43:38 PM »

A late friend of mine killed one in Montana in a cull hunt, with a 44 Mag out of a carbine.  He was a very experienced hunter and had lots of confidence in the 44 Mag round.  He had killed several elk with a Super Blackhawk.

Bison is second to nothing as far as meat goes, much better than beef or even elk.
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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2017, 01:00:40 PM »

Seems like the only choice!

May not be the only choice but it is the right choice
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2017, 08:04:50 AM »

I used to put in for a buffalo draw every year when I lived in Montana. Never got drawn. I had a friend lined up to go with me, he was getting the hide, the head, and some meat. Most of the meat was going home with me. Smiley

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I still put in every year..  nothing yet.  Even have a Shiloh Sharps .45-70 itching to be properly used.
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