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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #150 on: November 21, 2017, 06:23:43 PM »

AFAIK, everyone around here does that.  I don't think I even spend any time alone with the guys with the door closed.

And are you rrrrreally SUUUUURE that the guys you think are guys are really guys? In this mixed-up world, today's "guy" is tomorrows genderless personage.
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #151 on: November 21, 2017, 07:59:20 PM »
Female SNL staffers sign a letter in support of Al Franken.  Public's reaction is . . . not what they expected:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/women-snl-write-letter-support-141304054.html


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A letter literally “sending gratitude” to a man’s entire family bc that man didn’t grope the letter writers. Ok.

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This week on SNL: host Lena Dunham and musical guest R. Kelly.

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Congrats on this harmful, distracting, useless statement, @nbcsnl. It's LITERALLY "family men," "comedians," & "honorable public servants" being revealed as harassers. Progressive men can mistreat women too, and it's dangerous to imply otherwise.

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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #152 on: November 21, 2017, 09:21:39 PM »
From the time I was a brand new 2LT, the only time I closed my office door was if I was in there by myself on a phone call.  If anyone, male or female was in the office with me, the door was open.

Same with conference rooms or other places.  Door always open unless there were three or more folks are in there. 
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #153 on: November 22, 2017, 08:58:48 AM »
The Chicago Tribune has an editorial (or op-ed) on Charlie Rose that sums it up pretty well: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-charlie-rose-kass-1122-story.html

I guess I'm like the author of the article: I guess I'm sexist or old-fashioned or patriarchal or ethnically tribal or some other sin or thought crime that I haven’t figured out yet. I was raised, like the author, to treat every young woman with respect, and to remember that she has a family, with brothers and cousins. And that she and her family are as worthy of respect as your own. I suppose the fact that I consider scumbags like Weinstein and Rose and the others as scumbags makes me some sort of troglodyte, but so be it.
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #154 on: November 22, 2017, 12:06:44 PM »
I know Jake Tapper leans left, but he's the kind of lefty I think you can politely debate. Awesome response to the Teen Vogue nitwit:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2017/11/22/boom-jake-tapper-nukes-teen-vogue-columnists-innocent-men-hot-take/
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #155 on: November 22, 2017, 09:33:51 PM »
At the risk of beating the subject into the ground, two more women are accusing Al Franken of groping them, bringing the total to four so far:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-more-women-accuse-sen-001020750.html
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #156 on: November 23, 2017, 11:28:39 AM »
I find it interesting that when Democrats are accused of sexual misconduct, they always say let the investigation take it's course and innocent until proven guilty.  The facts will speak for themselves.
But if it's a Republican, even accused of misconduct (let alone done something), they are supposed to resign or in the case of the AL Senate candidate, it's guilty and they don't really care if he's innocent or the situations were debatable in terms of okay conduct versus questionable conduct.

Let's not forget that Elvis like young girls and met Pricillia when she was 14 years old whom he married.  Some might think this is an antiquated concept, but some men don't want women who have had previous sexual intercourse and as a result, look to the younger ones for marriage prospects.
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #157 on: November 24, 2017, 07:25:12 AM »
I suppose the fact that I consider scumbags like Weinstein and Rose and the others as scumbags makes me some sort of troglodyte, but so be it.

No. You, sir, are a gentleman.  =)

My tinfoil hattery is that I think we're going to be flooded with accusations and counter-accusations until the public falls back asleep about it. That way the perps can continue their misdeeds and worse without anybody caring...again.


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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #158 on: November 24, 2017, 08:07:35 AM »

My tinfoil hattery is that I think we're going to be flooded with accusations and counter-accusations until the public falls back asleep about it. That way the perps can continue their misdeeds and worse without anybody caring...again.


Intentionally contaminating the signal-to-noise ratio? That wouldn't surprise me. Or just making so much noise that it becomes the new normal.

I noticed this morning that Gabby Douglas, the Olympic gymnast, has retracted her tweet about dressing modestly to avert attacks. Personally, although I don't think a woman should have to fear attack no matter how she's dressed, I can't see that dressing modestly is bad advice, and I would expect my daughter to dress modestly. But Gabby is a "somebody," and I'm sure the feminist powers-that-be made it abundantly clear to her that "somebodies" aren't allowed to express such opinions to today's world.
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #159 on: November 29, 2017, 02:19:20 PM »
Today is a two-fer:  Garrison Keillor (Prairie Home Socialist) and NBC's Matt Lauer have both been sacked for "inappropriate behavior."

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/29/nbc-announces-today-show-co-host-matt-lauer-fired-due-to-inappropriate-sexual-behavior-at-work.html

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/29/media/garrison-keillor-inappropriate-behavior/index.html
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Keillor, in an op-ed for The Washington Post published on Tuesday, had defended Minnesota Democratic Senator Al Franken, who was recently accused by Leeann Tweeden of groping and kissing her without her consent during a USO tour in 2006.

Keillor wrote that calls for Franken to resign were "pure absurdity."

... and now we know why.
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #160 on: November 29, 2017, 09:05:08 PM »
Today is a two-fer:  Garrison Keillor (Prairie Home Socialist) and NBC's Matt Lauer have both been sacked for "inappropriate behavior."

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/29/nbc-announces-today-show-co-host-matt-lauer-fired-due-to-inappropriate-sexual-behavior-at-work.html

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/29/media/garrison-keillor-inappropriate-behavior/index.html
... and now we know why.


Here's the latest on GK.  Looks like he might be getting railroaded (although if he was just patting her on the back, why so low on her back?)  I wonder if his real sin was defending Al Franken?

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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #161 on: November 29, 2017, 10:38:53 PM »
Any guesses on the next pervert?
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #162 on: November 29, 2017, 10:47:05 PM »
Is Stephen Breyer too much to ask for?
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #163 on: November 29, 2017, 11:59:27 PM »
A list of skeezy candidates:

Geraldo Rivera
Joe Scarborough
Anderson Cooper
Juan Williams
Jimmy Fallon
Stephen Colbert


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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #164 on: November 30, 2017, 12:33:29 AM »
Today is a two-fer:  Garrison Keillor (Prairie Home Socialist) and NBC's Matt Lauer have both been sacked for "inappropriate behavior."

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/11/29/nbc-announces-today-show-co-host-matt-lauer-fired-due-to-inappropriate-sexual-behavior-at-work.html

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/29/media/garrison-keillor-inappropriate-behavior/index.html
... and now we know why.


Instapundit called the Keillor one, based on an article that Keillor wrote defending Al Franken, about 3 hours before news broke that he was fired.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/282013/
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #165 on: November 30, 2017, 01:42:21 PM »
A list of skeezy candidates:

Geraldo Rivera
Joe Scarborough
Anderson Cooper
Juan Williams
Jimmy Fallon
Stephen Colbert




https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/nov/30/bette-midler-accused-geraldo-rivera-drugging-gropi/

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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #166 on: November 30, 2017, 01:48:52 PM »
It appears Joe Barton is not seeking reelection. However, most of what I have read on this incident concurs with the URL below. He is actually a victim of revenge porn versus being a harasser.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2017/11/30/victim-of-revenge-porn-gop-rep-joe-barton-wont-seek-re-election-after-nude-photo-leak/
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #167 on: November 30, 2017, 09:35:16 PM »
I wonder if the truly rich and powerful will just become more ruthless. Easier than becoming more moral I imagine. Kennedy rules, they can't accuse you if they're dead.
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #168 on: November 30, 2017, 09:56:58 PM »
I wonder if the truly rich and powerful will just become more ruthless. Easier than becoming more moral I imagine. Kennedy rules, they can't accuse you if they're dead.

Works for the Clinton gang.
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #169 on: November 30, 2017, 11:04:30 PM »
A list of skeezy candidates:

Geraldo Rivera
Joe Scarborough
Anderson Cooper
Juan Williams
Jimmy Fallon
Stephen Colbert




I really don't see Anderson Cooper, but you never know.
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« Reply #170 on: December 02, 2017, 10:28:10 AM »
Interesting to watch the Dems handle this right now. R's might do the same, but almost everything seems to be a "D" right now. Pelosi, in her backpedalling, is now calling for resignations, but strategically. Conyers said he's not going to run again anyway, so that's an easy bus to jump on. Also she's now calling for a no-name guy from NV to resign, who appears to have done much less egregious stuff than Franken (asking an employee on dates from what I read). Yet no call from her for Franken to resign.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/02/pelosi-calls-on-nevada-democrat-to-resign-over-sexual-misconduct-claim.html
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« Reply #171 on: December 04, 2017, 02:01:05 PM »
Can someone help me with a list of R's (and conservatives) that have resigned/been fired in the current sexual harassment firestorm
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« Reply #172 on: December 04, 2017, 03:03:52 PM »
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #173 on: December 04, 2017, 04:20:44 PM »
So what are the chances of this getting passed?  https://thecapitolist.com/desantis-co-sponsors-bill-to-end-congress-sexual-harassment-hush-fund/

As an old saying goes, "Between slim and none -- and Slim left town."

It just makes too much sense. And it would make scumbag politicians responsible/liable (at least in one regard) for their own scumbag actions. Which means it'll never pass.

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Members of Congress and staff cannot live under special rules,” he continued. “The current system incentivizes misconduct and makes it difficult for victims. By exposing these secret settlements and by discontinuing using tax dollars to pay for member misconduct, this bill will reduce the incentive for bad behavior and bring more accountability to Congress.”

Added Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), another co-sponsor: “The use of taxpayer funds and forced non-disclosure agreements to silence victims of sexual harassment is disgusting, and I am grateful to be able to join my colleagues in introducing legislation to stop this practice. It is time to restore respect in the congressional workplace, and shame on us if we don’t make this change.”

Get ready to be shamed, Ms. Blackburn.
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Re: Feminist Politicians and Harvey Weinstein
« Reply #174 on: December 21, 2017, 06:47:25 AM »



Nothing says your fighting sexual harassment like dressing as a high paid call girl eh?
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