Ballistic missile false alarm in Hawaii.

[freakazoid]

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-42677604
So apparently Hawaii just recently had a false alarm about an incoming ballistic missile. Looks like someone pressed the wrong test button and sent out a warning to everyone's cell phones.

[Ben]

Most accounts so far say it was Trump's fault. 

I did hear one theory that someone did it as either a practical joke, or as "resistance". I'm still unclear as to if this came from the local/state EAS or from the feds. I would assume state, but I have been seeing fingers pointed at feds. Not sure if that's politics or accurate.

[Hawkmoon]

I haven't seen any accounts yet blaming it on Trump, but doing so makes perfect sense for people who are seeking any reason to blame him for anything they don't like. Could the mistake have been intentional? Possibly. If so, the person responsible should be dealt with VERY severely ... if it can be proved (which is unlikely).

[just Warren]

That darn Trump pressed the wrong button!


The number of people that thought this was real is too damn high!

Lil' Kim is not going to launch nukes at us. If he does his whole country, at least the important bits, disappears.

He's a tyrant and a thief and lives well off of the backs of his slave population so why would he want to upset that balance?

Below him are all the other leeches. And they and their families mostly live in Pyongyang. They know damn well what would happen and would stop it.

So letting yourself worry about it is a waste of energy.

[RoadKingLarry]

Duck and cover!!

[just Warren]

[just Warren]

And while image searching this came up:



Which seems to be the best way to face the end.

[freakazoid]

I wonder how many people will now take preparation a little more seriously.

[MechAg94]

That darn Trump pressed the wrong button!


The number of people that thought this was real is too damn high!

Lil' Kim is not going to launch nukes at us. If he does his whole country, at least the important bits, disappears.

He's a tyrant and a thief and lives well off of the backs of his slave population so why would he want to upset that balance?

Below him are all the other leeches. And they and their families mostly live in Pyongyang. They know damn well what would happen and would stop it.

So letting yourself worry about it is a waste of energy.

People in that position often do not have a firm grasp of reality and their actual position in it. 

If we can have idiot teenagers eating detergent on a dare, I can't imagine how bent that man might be.

[Hawkmoon]

If we can have idiot teenagers eating detergent on a dare, I can't imagine how bent that man might be.

Sure you can. Give it a try.

Hint: He had his own uncle executed, by firing squad (using anti-aircraft guns).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3154426/Seoul-North-Korean-leader-executed-70-taking-power.html

[BlueStarLizzard]

Yeah, I have no doubt he would if he could and not because there is any logic behind such actions, but because I'm pretty sure he's nuttier than squirrel *expletive deleted*it in a nut factory.

It's the "could" part I have trouble believing.

[RoadKingLarry]

Sure you can. Give it a try.

Hint: He had his own uncle executed, by firing squad (using anti-aircraft guns).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3154426/Seoul-North-Korean-leader-executed-70-taking-power.html

You say that like it was a bad thing. What's wrong with one less family member of a tyrannical, despotic regime.

[freakazoid]

Sure you can. Give it a try.

Hint: He had his own uncle executed, by firing squad (using anti-aircraft guns).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3154426/Seoul-North-Korean-leader-executed-70-taking-power.html

And had his half-brother assassinated at an airport.

[Scout26]

Yeah, don't think that he's "rational" in our sense of the word.  He's "rational" in the crazy sh!thole dictator sense of the word...

[dm1333]

Most accounts so far say it was Trump's fault. 

I did hear one theory that someone did it as either a practical joke, or as "resistance". I'm still unclear as to if this came from the local/state EAS or from the feds. I would assume state, but I have been seeing fingers pointed at feds. Not sure if that's politics or accurate.

I saw some stuff on Twitchy about people like Jamey Leigh Curtis rushing to put the blame on Trump but it was actually the state that f'ed up.  Somebody pushed a button they shouldn't have. 

[zahc]

Copied from slashdot. Makes for interesting reading.

The US gov/mil needed to see what the US population would do in that state and all over the USA, globally given a simple cellphone message for a set time.
How would all diplomats in the USA react? Calls made, messages sent. Reactions in their embassy, communications used from their embassy out of the USA.
Spies been watched by the FBI all over the USA react in any way at all?
Do US survivalist have any national or global messaging system that was not yet under constant FBI/NSA/CIA watch?
What did average survivalist do? Drive out to their bug out location? Stay at work? Why? Did they know it was a test? Nice way to find out who they are and who got seen on CCTV, via cell phone tracking driving around in a very different way after the message :)
Did the message get repeated on unexpected and unknown communications networks? Totally new systems and unknown people who held back for just such a warning that had not been tracked by the NSA, CIA, GCHQ, FBI in the past?
Ham radio, cell phone, telephone numbers, IRC, forums, social media, changes to web sites, visits to strange web sites by many people? Different, direct messages to unexpected and new militia groups all over the US once thought to be isolated in their states?
Was the message a long conversation? A word? A number? Who passed it on locally deeper into the USA? Hops to different very networks all over the USA.
Such unexpected and urgent communications would have been a real time study for the FBI, NSA uncovering all kinds of survival and militia groups that stayed so well hidden for so long only to be detected USA wide by one simple message.
40 mins gave the study time to keep tracking all the people with "plans" all over the USA. Spies, embassy workers, US militia groups, cults, faith groups, dual citizens, survivalist, people in the US mil/gov/contractors, police might have done something very interesting for 40 mins.
Who stayed at their job in the US mil/gov/police? Who phoned their kin, strangers when they should not due to gov/mil secrecy? Who got a message and/or responded to someone they never had contact with in the past?
One message gave the FBI, US mil, police and NSA years of information on their workers, contractors, staff, special forces. Who made calls to tell people it was all a test...
Who stayed loyal to the US mil/gov and who was talking to people.
Now the US gov knows who will do what in time of war.

[Hawkmoon]

Saw one article that mentioned a mother who hid in the bathroom with her daughter. That's about as effective as the hiding under our desks would have been when I was in grammar school back in the 1950s. It makes you wonder if maybe it would be better to NOT have a warning system. It's not like Hawaii has a network of shelters such as many cities had back at the height of the cold war. (Or individuals with fully-stocked, underground shelters buried in their yards. I used to do lawn work for people who had their own shelters "back in the day.")

[French G.]

It's winter, how about our own Rocketman, not the kimchi smelling one, set up a NAAR launch party in paradise. Ought to trigger a few folks.

[dogmush]

Copied from slashdot. Makes for interesting reading.

That is some next level paranoid bullshit.

[Hawkmoon]

That is some next level paranoid bullshit.

Oh, come on. I'm sure all the miliiamen in Idaho were scurrying for their bunkers when they heard there was an alert in ... Hawaii.

[Ben]

That is some next level paranoid bullshit.

I wouldn't know. My head started hurting five lines in and I had to stop reading.

[Scout26]

It's winter, how about our own Rocketman, not the kimchi smelling one, set up a NAAR launch party in paradise. Ought to trigger a few folks.

Northern Arizona Association of REALTORS ??

[Blakenzy]

Crazy or not he's a man that wants power, clearly knows how to seize power and how to hold on to power. Starting a nuke war with the USSA is not the way to do that.

[230RN]

You say that like it was a bad thing. What's wrong with one less family member of a tyrannical, despotic regime.

Because the reason that person, family member or not,  was executed was because he was a risk to the despot.  If he was a risk to the despot, then from our point of view, it would have been good to have him around.

The  pattern is the same for nearly every tyrannical personality who acquires power.  Stain, Mao, Pol Pot, the list is long and old.

What  puzzles me is how despots keep their killers so loyal to them.

[Hawkmoon]

What  puzzles me is how despots keep their killers so loyal to them.

Fear.

The key is that the word is "killers" -- plural. Someone who might want to bail out, or orchestrate a coup, never knows who he or she can trust. (Usually no one.) Read up on Rocketboy's history. He had one top-level official executed -- brutally -- for nodding off in a meeting. He's like the ultimate getto gangsta, demanding "respect" even though he doesn't deserve any.