Author Topic: Anybody following the FBI scandal ? (Read 10222 times)

Scout26 · « **Reply #50 on:** February 01, 2018, 11:00:45 PM »

I'm waiting for the "Obama was as bad as Nixon" comments once the memo is released. I have a feeling that things were done at a higher level then just the DoJ and FBI.

makattak · « **Reply #51 on:** February 01, 2018, 11:19:47 PM »

Quote from: Amy Schumer on February 01, 2018, 11:00:45 PM

I'm waiting for the "Obama was as bad as Nixon" comments once the memo is released. I have a feeling that things were done at a higher level then just the DoJ and FBI.

I'm sure they were, but were done with plausible deniability and no records.

But hey, if anything this debacle has revealed a lot of hubris, so I could be wrong.

KD5NRH · « **Reply #52 on:** February 01, 2018, 11:24:02 PM »

Quote from: RoadKingLarry on January 29, 2018, 10:02:56 PM

Plenty of cases where we know for an absolute certainty who did the deed. Ft. Hood, Aurora theater... Cases like that should be pretty cut and dried. Cross all the Ts, dot all the Is and take 'em out back and bury them ( no wasteful intermediate steps like an actual execution needed). Just dig a big hole with an excavator, throw them in and fill in the hole.

I'd also extend that to any who plead guilty to an appropriate charge; affirm the plea in open court, then deal with it before the sun sets.

Blakenzy · « **Reply #53 on:** February 02, 2018, 02:42:59 PM »

... aaaand here it is...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-02/fisa-memo-released-heres-what-it-says

I don't think that I have learned anything new that hasn't already been discussed, albeit in a hearsay manner.

DittoHead · « **Reply #54 on:** February 02, 2018, 05:15:34 PM »

It would be interesting if they would actually release the FISA application.
No one seems to be calling for that much transparency though.

Scout26 · « **Reply #55 on:** February 02, 2018, 09:37:38 PM »

Quote from: DittoHead on February 02, 2018, 05:15:34 PM

It would be interesting if they would actually release the FISA application.
No one seems to be calling for that much transparency though.

Wait for it....

Fly320s · « **Reply #56 on:** February 03, 2018, 10:43:33 AM »

Quote from: Amy Schumer on February 02, 2018, 09:37:38 PM

Wait for it....

...but don't hold your breath.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #57 on:** February 03, 2018, 10:45:25 AM »

It's all okay. Comey says the memo is a nothingburger.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/372040-comey-bashes-release-of-nunes-memo-thats-it

lee n. field · « **Reply #58 on:** February 03, 2018, 11:07:02 AM »

Our US Rep has been doubling down on the Evil Republicans/Evil Trump stuff lately.

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Before Washington Republicans released the Nunes memo, the FBI expressed its "grave concerns" and stated there are "omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy." I trust the hardworking men and women who put their lives on the line to protect our nation much more than I trust Chairman Nunes.

Today, Washington Republicans broke a sacred trust between the House of Representatives and our national security, law enforcement and intelligence agencies. I have real concerns that the release of this memo could make it easier for our enemies abroad to avoid surveillance and embolden them to carry out attacks on Americans. This partisan memo is designed specifically to undermine the Mueller investigation into possible ties between President Trump and Vladimir Putin. And with two guilty pleas already secured, Americans should not be fooled by this obvious attempt to distract them.

I can only hope this will come back to bite her.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #59 on:** February 06, 2018, 08:40:23 AM »

http://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/02/04/fusion-gps-ohr/

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Under a contract from the Clinton campaign, the Fusion GPS research firm was paying the wife of a senior Department of Justice official as part of its efforts to gather opposition research on Trump, and the same official then brought that research to the FBI.

Not sure if this deserves its own thread, but another item to add to the pile.

makattak · « **Reply #60 on:** February 06, 2018, 04:14:11 PM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on February 06, 2018, 08:40:23 AM

http://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/02/04/fusion-gps-ohr/
Not sure if this deserves its own thread, but another item to add to the pile.

The Democrats literally do not care. Appearance of impropriety, actual impropriety, outright corruption, they don't care. If it is done for their benefit, doesn't matter what it was, it is good. If it was done against them, it doesn't matter how ethical and upright it is, it's bad. (And so is the person who did it, that goes without saying. <cough> Ken Starr <cough>)

The playbook hasn't changed in years, they are just much more open in supporting corruption now.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #61 on:** February 06, 2018, 11:09:46 PM »

Quote from: makattak on February 06, 2018, 04:14:11 PM

The Democrats literally do not care. Appearance of impropriety, actual impropriety, outright corruption, they don't care. If it is done for their benefit, doesn't matter what it was, it is good. If it was done against them, it doesn't matter how ethical and upright it is, it's bad. (And so is the person who did it, that goes without saying. <cough> Ken Starr <cough>)

The playbook hasn't changed in years, they are just much more open in supporting corruption now.

And that is just the voters.

Blakenzy · « **Reply #62 on:** February 07, 2018, 01:21:07 PM »

http://theduran.com/breaking-new-text-messages-from-fbi-lovers-say-obama-wants-to-know-everything/

TommyGunn · « **Reply #63 on:** February 07, 2018, 07:40:39 PM »

Quote from: Blakenzy on February 07, 2018, 01:21:07 PM

http://theduran.com/breaking-new-text-messages-from-fbi-lovers-say-obama-wants-to-know-everything/

Wait....there's still people who love the FBI?

Blakenzy · « **Reply #64 on:** February 08, 2018, 09:18:47 PM »

A timeline:

http://politicalvanguard.com/biased-fbi-and-doj-officials-broke-the-law-and-tried-to-decide-the-election-an-annotated-timeline/

This was supposedly first published on Forbes but was then removed.

http://archive.is/KOCM9

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #65 on:** February 08, 2018, 11:30:59 PM »

And yet, not one damn thing will ever come of any of it.

Fitz · « **Reply #66 on:** February 08, 2018, 11:50:33 PM »

Quote from: RoadKingLarry on February 08, 2018, 11:30:59 PM

And yet, not one damn thing will ever come of any of it.

ding ding

RocketMan · « **Reply #67 on:** February 09, 2018, 06:23:15 AM »

Quote from: RoadKingLarry on February 08, 2018, 11:30:59 PM

And yet, not one damn thing will ever come of any of it.

Very true. And I am getting very tired of conservative media's hyperventilated bloviating about the subject. I think it's time for some fresh material as they've beaten this subject to death. Time to move on to the next outrage.

Fly320s · « **Reply #68 on:** February 09, 2018, 06:54:08 AM »

Quote from: RocketMan on February 09, 2018, 06:23:15 AM

Very true. And I am getting very tired of conservative media's hyperventilated bloviating about the subject. I think it's time for some fresh material as they've beaten this subject to death. Time to move on to the next outrage.

That is exactly what the Left wants.

makattak · « **Reply #69 on:** February 09, 2018, 08:12:15 AM »

Quote from: Fly320s on February 09, 2018, 06:54:08 AM

That is exactly what the Left wants.

I'm sure it is. However, if the Right is interested in actually pursuing these things, there should be some evidence that consequences will be forthcoming.

Shall I go through all the malfeasance and corruption in the Obama era where the worst "consequences" was someone was "forced" to retire with a fat pension?

Politicians don't want people sick of fake outrage from politicians? Stop talking and take action.

Fly320s · « **Reply #70 on:** February 09, 2018, 08:39:59 AM »

The problem is that those of us/them who are outraged enough to continue the investigation are not the people in charge of prosecuting. If we/they just say "ah, no one will be charged, therefore we don't need to continue the investigation" every time something like this comes up, then one day we won't even have investigations. It is a slippery slope.

A swift, public prosecution of even the most minor malfeasance is the only true power we have over the elected official. Voting the jerk out of office can take years and doesn't really punish him, nor does it disuade other jerks from doing the same things.

Fitz · « **Reply #71 on:** February 09, 2018, 08:54:52 AM »

Quote from: Fly320s on February 09, 2018, 06:54:08 AM

That is exactly what the Left wants.

It’s exactly what the right wants too, at least the politicians

At this point, with the GOP pudding up their feathers, letting Gowdy yell for a bit, then NEVER ACTUALLY TAKING ANY KIND OF ACTION, I’ve given up on the GOP. They’re complicit in all of this and guilty by way of their inaction

makattak · « **Reply #72 on:** February 09, 2018, 09:58:25 AM »

Quote from: Fly320s on February 09, 2018, 08:39:59 AM

The problem is that those of us/them who are outraged enough to continue the investigation are not the people in charge of prosecuting. If we/they just say "ah, no one will be charged, therefore we don't need to continue the investigation" every time something like this comes up, then one day we won't even have investigations. It is a slippery slope.

A swift, public prosecution of even the most minor malfeasance is the only true power we have over the elected official. Voting the jerk out of office can take years and doesn't really punish him, nor does it disuade other jerks from doing the same things.

Ok, I agree that a swift public prosecution is the best way to keep the politicians in line.

Two questions:

When was the last time that happened?

How exactly does a realistic view that the "elites" will protect themselves, to hell with the plebs, in any way change the likelihood that someone, ANYONE (especially one of the (D) persuasion) will ever be held so accountable?

Fly320s · « **Reply #73 on:** February 09, 2018, 10:49:49 AM »

Quote from: makattak on February 09, 2018, 09:58:25 AM

Ok, I agree that a swift public prosecution is the best way to keep the politicians in line.

Two questions:

When was the last time that happened?

How exactly does a realistic view that the "elites" will protect themselves, to hell with the plebs, in any way change the likelihood that someone, ANYONE (especially one of the (D) persuasion) will ever be held so accountable?

Therein lies the problem. They protect each other regardles of party affiliation. To get prosecuted, one needs to be on the wrong side of public opinion, not the wrong side of the law. Right now, anyone accused of sexual assault or harrassment is as good as convicted regardless of the facts. But breaking the law? No big deal. They all do it.

just Warren · « **Reply #74 on:** February 09, 2018, 03:12:27 PM »

They all have blackmail material on each other. Maybe there's not 100% coverage but it's enough to stall, hinder and end investigations.

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Author Topic: Anybody following the FBI scandal ? (Read 10222 times)