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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #125 on: February 25, 2018, 09:30:53 AM »
"AR-15s tear bodies apart!!!". So says moron "Retired Lt Colonel Ralph Peters" on Fox News right this minute. "A pump action shotgun is what you want for home defense. If you want to shoot an AR-15, join the military."

Firearms expert.  ;/

Didn't Gen. Wesley Clark say that very same thing way back when he wanted to run for president?
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #126 on: February 25, 2018, 01:32:48 PM »
Didn't Gen. Wesley Clark say that very same thing way back when he wanted to run for president?


Yes, he did. Not surprising -- he was a waste of oxygen anyway.
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« Reply #127 on: February 25, 2018, 04:40:30 PM »
What happens when you let teenagers run the narrative as if they were knowledgeable adults:

https://twitchy.com/bethb-313034/2018/02/25/brian-stetler-carmine-sabia-go-hogg-wild-over-cnn-reporting-until-ben-shapiro-dana-loesch-jump-in/

Ironically, the CNN program is called "Reliable Sources".
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« Reply #128 on: February 25, 2018, 05:34:33 PM »
Dana Loesch owns Congress?  So when is she going to repeal GCA '68?
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« Reply #129 on: February 25, 2018, 07:56:54 PM »
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #130 on: February 25, 2018, 10:01:05 PM »
"YOu dON't sEE tHiS iN tHe REst Of tHe wOrLd!!!1!"

Meanwhile in Nigeria, http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nigeria-says-110-girls-unaccounted-for-after-boko-haram-attack/ar-BBJzitD?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp

It's obviously Dana Loesch's fault. She doesn't care about those kids, either.
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #131 on: February 26, 2018, 08:29:18 AM »
"YOu dON't sEE tHiS iN tHe REst Of tHe wOrLd!!!1!"

Meanwhile in Nigeria, http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nigeria-says-110-girls-unaccounted-for-after-boko-haram-attack/ar-BBJzitD?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp

They are right. They don't see this in the rest of the world.

Because our news doesn't care when foreigners are killed, especially if they are of a darker hue. Dana Loesch nailed it: Weeping white women are ratings gold for the bloodthirsty media, so of course that's what they will focus on incessantly. Dusky foreigners just don't cut it.

Of course, the idiots don't realize that they "don't see it in the rest of the world" only because it isn't reported here, not because it doesn't happen.
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« Reply #132 on: February 26, 2018, 12:28:42 PM »
The stupidity of this guy aside, does anyone know where this "98.7%" is coming from? It's not the first time I have heard the, "gun owners are only 1% of the population" argument during this latest round of craziness.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/02/26/yeah-thats-stupid-ben-shapiro-shut-seth-abramson-and-his-lame-1791-gun-control-argument-down/
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #133 on: February 26, 2018, 12:51:18 PM »
The stupidity of this guy aside, does anyone know where this "98.7%" is coming from? It's not the first time I have heard the, "gun owners are only 1% of the population" argument during this latest round of craziness.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/02/26/yeah-thats-stupid-ben-shapiro-shut-seth-abramson-and-his-lame-1791-gun-control-argument-down/

Is he talking about the percentage that are in the NRA? (still seems a bit low)
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #134 on: February 26, 2018, 12:54:27 PM »
The stupidity of this guy aside, does anyone know where this "98.7%" is coming from? It's not the first time I have heard the, "gun owners are only 1% of the population" argument during this latest round of craziness.


5 million folks in the NRA / 323 million folks in the US =1.5% of folks in the US own guns.  They may have rounded a little  on both numbers. I used, literally, the first google result for both.

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« Reply #135 on: February 26, 2018, 01:21:06 PM »
NRA numbers were my first thought, but are they really that stupid? I'm not even sure if you could apply that to NYC.

Where I live, in anti-gun CA, I can go in the opposite direction. One of my neighbors (albeit, "neighbors" are like 1/4 mile away) held a get together for all the "neighbors" around here last Summer. About a dozen households showed up. Standing around in the beer circle, it turned out that there were guns in every household.

Given, some of the neighbors are fudds, but they still have at least had a shotgun in the house. Even in extremely anti-gun Santa Barbara, in a pretty liberal office, 5 out of 18 people were gun owners (or the husbands had guns, and that was people that "admitted" it). That's ~25% in SJW HQ.

Also, I forget the exact numbers, but I saw some liberal news talking point that I didn't bother to read pop up on my news feed. The headline was something like, "Why 3% of gun owners own 90% of the guns".
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« Reply #136 on: February 26, 2018, 01:47:42 PM »
NRA numbers were my first thought, but are they really that stupid? I'm not even sure if you could apply that to NYC.

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« Reply #137 on: February 26, 2018, 02:32:14 PM »
NRA numbers were my first thought, but are they really that stupid? I'm not even sure if you could apply that to NYC.

Where I live, in anti-gun CA, I can go in the opposite direction. One of my neighbors (albeit, "neighbors" are like 1/4 mile away) held a get together for all the "neighbors" around here last Summer. About a dozen households showed up. Standing around in the beer circle, it turned out that there were guns in every household.

Given, some of the neighbors are fudds, but they still have at least had a shotgun in the house. Even in extremely anti-gun Santa Barbara, in a pretty liberal office, 5 out of 18 people were gun owners (or the husbands had guns, and that was people that "admitted" it). That's ~25% in SJW HQ.

Also, I forget the exact numbers, but I saw some liberal news talking point that I didn't bother to read pop up on my news feed. The headline was something like, "Why 3% of gun owners own 90% of the guns".
I think there was a discredited article last year saying all the guns were owned by a relatively few people (3%?).  I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of liberals took that as gospel. 
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #139 on: February 26, 2018, 06:43:49 PM »
Should we tell them about the FN Five-seveN?

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« Reply #140 on: February 26, 2018, 07:47:06 PM »
FL state senate shot down an "assault weapons" ban. I guess maybe they know their voting demographic.

https://twitchy.com/bethb-313034/2018/02/26/watch-mass-chaos-erupts-when-florida-senate-votes-down-assault-weapons-ban/
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« Reply #141 on: February 26, 2018, 08:43:49 PM »
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"A handgun [wound] is simply a stabbing with a bullet. It goes in like a nail." With the high-velocity rounds of the AR-15, "it’s as if you shot somebody with a Coke can."

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/02/26/fact-check-sen-dianne-feinstein-pulling-her-ar-15-expertise-from-rolling-stone-now/
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« Reply #142 on: February 26, 2018, 09:20:33 PM »
Remember back in the day when Handgun Control Inc. was just after handguns as being the tools of criminals...

Good times...
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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #143 on: February 26, 2018, 09:27:51 PM »
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/02/26/fact-check-sen-dianne-feinstein-pulling-her-ar-15-expertise-from-rolling-stone-now/

I don't think she's that stupid -- she thinks we* are that stupid.  She might be right about a lot of people

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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #144 on: February 26, 2018, 09:46:13 PM »
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« Reply #145 on: February 26, 2018, 09:47:05 PM »
It looks like the first of likely several bills is being introduced into the House. It's probably good that they're going for this kind of ambiguous overreach:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-democrats-introduce-bill-prohibiting-sale-of-semi-automatic-weapons/article/2650087

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/02/26/here-we-go-house-dems-introduce-bill-to-ban-sale-production-of-semi-automatic-weapons/

Here it is in all it's glory.

https://cicilline.house.gov/sites/cicilline.house.gov/files/images/Assault_Weapons_Ban_of_2018.pdf

the specific list of proposed banned guns looks a little like my shopping list (well, the ones I don't already have)
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« Reply #146 on: February 26, 2018, 09:59:54 PM »
Here it is in all it's glory.

https://cicilline.house.gov/sites/cicilline.house.gov/files/images/Assault_Weapons_Ban_of_2018.pdf

the specific list of proposed banned guns looks a little like my shopping list (well, the ones I don't already have)

Not that they have the votes to pass it, but if they did, given my cursory reading of the link, it looks kinda like CA law. Which means you could come up with "featureless" variations almost immediately after the bill is passed.

I didn't see M1As on it or even M1 carbines.
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« Reply #147 on: February 26, 2018, 10:03:26 PM »
I don't think she's that stupid -- she thinks we* are that stupid.  She might be right about a lot of people

(*I'm not talking about APS, I'm talking about Americans in general)

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Re: The Gun Control Bandwagon
« Reply #148 on: February 26, 2018, 10:04:24 PM »
I don't think she's that stupid -- she thinks we* are that stupid.  She might be right about a lot of people

(*I'm not talking about APS, I'm talking about Americans in general)
Well, I imagine many of the people who keep voting for her are that stupid (at least about some issues).
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« Reply #149 on: February 26, 2018, 10:09:43 PM »
The list in that bill made me laugh.  So many of the guns specifically named haven't been sold in years...  The SP-89, the Streetsweeper, etc.  So they dug up old language and added new names, like the S&W M&P-15.  Nice.
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