United is learning, at least a little (still tragic, though)

[freakazoid]

On the dog that was flown to Japan, since it left the country and apparently landed in another country, wouldn't it have to go through whatever quarantine procedures apply upon reentering the US?  I guess United plowed right through that and everyone made exceptions.

If it never left the Japanese airport I don't think it ever technically entered Japan. I don't think there's much of a quarantine procedures for coming from Japan to the US either way.

[Fly320s]

If it never left the Japanese airport I don't think it ever technically entered Japan. I don't think there's much of a quarantine procedures for coming from Japan to the US either way.

Check the dog’s passport.  No immigration stamp = no entry.   

In related news, I often go to foreign countries but never actually ‘enter’ the country because I don’t get off the plane.  I just turn around and fly back, yet I still have to clear US Immigration/Customs.  I find it funny.

[Hawkmoon]

In related news, I often go to foreign countries but never actually ‘enter’ the country because I don’t get off the plane.  I just turn around and fly back, yet I still have to clear US Immigration/Customs.  I find it funny.

Interesting observation. I suppose the next step would be if you take off from a U.S. airport, fly a route that transits Canadian air space and land at a U.S. airport, you would have technically "left" the United States so you (and all the passengers!) would have to clear customs and immigration when you land.

[Scout26]

Check the dog’s passport.  No immigration stamp = no entry.   

In related news, I often go to foreign countries but never actually ‘enter’ the country because I don’t get off the plane.  I just turn around and fly back, yet I still have to clear US Immigration/Customs.  I find it funny.

When I flew back to the states on a C-130, it made a stop in Reykjavik, Iceland. (cargo off-load/on-load, fuel, and crew change) We weren't allowed to get off the plane since we did not have passports/visas to be there.  (Germany to RAF Upper Heyford to Iceland to Loring AFB in Maine to Glenview Naval Air Station near Chicago- 28 hours)

[Fly320s]

Interesting observation. I suppose the next step would be if you take off from a U.S. airport, fly a route that transits Canadian air space and land at a U.S. airport, you would have technically "left" the United States so you (and all the passengers!) would have to clear customs and immigration when you land.

No.  We often fly through Canadian airspace from Boston to the west coast.  We never clear immigration for that.  Must be an island rule.

Another funny thing is flying out of the USVI.  It is a US territory, but we clear Immigration when leaving because USVI is outside the exclusion zone, or something like that.

[Hawkmoon]

When I flew back to the states on a C-130, it made a stop in Reykjavik, Iceland. (cargo off-load/on-load, fuel, and crew change) We weren't allowed to get off the plane since we did not have passports/visas to be there.  (Germany to RAF Upper Heyford to Iceland to Loring AFB in Maine to Glenview Naval Air Station near Chicago- 28 hours)

And yet, on trips to and from Russia, I've made stops and even changed planes in Stockholm and Copenhagen, and didn't have to clear customs (since I didn't have my luggage) or immigration (I never left the secure side of the airport). When I shipped out to Vietnam, the MAC flight made a refueling stop in Japan. We were allowed off the aircraft, but only to sit around on the tarmac until the bird was ready to take wing again.

[Fly320s]

And yet, on trips to and from Russia, I've made stops and even changed planes in Stockholm and Copenhagen, and didn't have to clear customs (since I didn't have my luggage) or immigration (I never left the secure side of the airport). When I shipped out to Vietnam, the MAC flight made a refueling stop in Japan. We were allowed off the aircraft, but only to sit around on the tarmac until the bird was ready to take wing again.

Every country has their own rules.  When I fly to Grand Cayman, I fly in, but deadhead out.  Even though I never enter the country, Cayman makes us two deadheading pilots walk through immigration/customs and then regular security before we can get back on the plane.  Cayman never checks our passports.  Only my company scans my passport as I get my seat assignment. 

[freakazoid]

Every country has their own rules.  When I fly to Grand Cayman, I fly in, but deadhead out.  Even though I never enter the country, Cayman makes us two deadheading pilots walk through immigration/customs and then regular security before we can get back on the plane.  Cayman never checks our passports.  Only my company scans my passport as I get my seat assignment. 

Deadhead?

[Brad Johnson]

Deadhead?

Flying as a non-piloty type person back in steerage with the peasants, not in the fun room with all the levers and buttons.

Brad

[TommyGunn]

Flying as a non-piloty type person back in steerage with the peasants, not in the fun room with all the levers and buttons.

Brad

So it WASN'T a reference to democrats?

[Fly320s]

Flying as a non-piloty type person back in steerage with the peasants, not in the fun room with all the levers and buttons.

Brad

Perfect description.

[KD5NRH]

Deadhead?

Overpaid ballast.

[Angel Eyes]

Deadhead?

[Fly320s]

Overpaid ballast.

Never overpaid.  I have to sit next to people like you lot.

[freakazoid]

Never overpaid.  I have to sit next to people like you lot.

[KD5NRH]

Never overpaid.  I have to sit next to people like you lot.

Your own fault for flying stuff too little to have a proper crew rest compartment they can lock you into and not have to look at you.

[Fly320s]

Your own fault for flying stuff too little to have a proper crew rest compartment they can lock you into and not have to look at you.

The cockpit is my crew rest compartment.  What do you think I do up there?  Actual work?  Ha!