Author Topic: Active shooter at Santa Fe high school in Texas (Read 6072 times)

MillCreek · « **on:** May 18, 2018, 09:58:06 AM »

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/18/us/texas-school-shooting/index.html

Few details as of yet.

makattak · « **Reply #1 on:** May 18, 2018, 09:59:14 AM »

I'm sure the sudden fame of the animal who killed all those children in Florida has NOTHING to do with this crime...

MechAg94 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 18, 2018, 10:34:35 AM »

Sad to hear. That is not all that far away. A project guy here today said he saw State police heading that direction at high speed when he pass through the area this morning. Hopefully few people are hurt and those that are can recover.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 18, 2018, 11:32:54 AM »

Preliminary reports are saying 8 dead plus others injured. Just caught mention of it on the radio a few minutes ago.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/police-confirm-reports-of-active-shooter-at-santa-fe-high-school
Here is a link from the local NBC affiliate.

http://abc13.com/live-coverage-active-shooter-situation-at-santa-fe-hs/3490869/
ABC affiliate.

robear · « **Reply #4 on:** May 18, 2018, 11:37:50 AM »

This is about 4 miles from me, as the crow flies. Local news is saying at least 8 dead, one arrested (but 2 in custody

).
Damn.. Just... Damn.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/police-confirm-reports-of-active-shooter-at-santa-fe-high-school

makattak · « **Reply #5 on:** May 18, 2018, 11:52:32 AM »

Quote from: makattak on May 18, 2018, 09:59:14 AM

I'm sure the sudden fame of the animal who killed all those children in Florida has NOTHING to do with this crime...

Early reporting is saying the creature pulled the fire alarm and shot students as they filled the hallway.

Geee... that sounds familiar, too.

RocketMan · « **Reply #6 on:** May 18, 2018, 01:03:34 PM »

Here we go yet again. Ten dead kids in Santa Fe, Texas high school. Suspect in custody. Second person of interest being sought. Possible explosive devices found.
Fox News story here.
Coming so soon after Florida and with Nevada so fresh in many folks minds, it makes me wonder if there is a tipping point, where a majority finally demands the 2nd be repealed.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #7 on:** May 18, 2018, 01:07:56 PM »

What is with all this defeatism on the gun issue these days?

TechMan · « **Reply #8 on:** May 18, 2018, 01:30:17 PM »

Merged topics.

Jamisjockey · « **Reply #9 on:** May 18, 2018, 01:35:40 PM »

Quote from: RocketMan on May 18, 2018, 01:03:34 PM

Here we go yet again. Ten dead kids in Santa Fe, Texas high school. Suspect in custody. Second person of interest being sought. Possible explosive devices found.
Fox News story here.
Coming so soon after Florida and with Nevada so fresh in many folks minds, it makes me wonder if there is a tipping point, where a majority finally demands the 2nd be repealed.

They can demand all they want. It won't happen.

However, I suspect we'll see more creeping incrementalism. Age limit 21 to own a gun and probably universal background checks.

Ben · « **Reply #10 on:** May 18, 2018, 01:49:22 PM »

Quote from: jamisjockey on May 18, 2018, 01:35:40 PM

They can demand all they want. It won't happen.

However, I suspect we'll see more creeping incrementalism. Age limit 21 to own a gun and probably universal background checks.

Yup. I'll wager "over 21" will be a done deal. I think Trump was cool with that, so like bump stocks, it will likely be a "gimme". I think there will be some significant lawsuits though, given it contributes to muddying the waters (on more than guns) on if 18 or 21 is "adult".

MechAg94 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 18, 2018, 02:08:33 PM »

Quote from: fistful on May 18, 2018, 01:07:56 PM

What is with all this defeatism on the gun issue these days?

I don't know, but I don't care for it.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 18, 2018, 02:09:28 PM »

Quote from: Ben on May 18, 2018, 01:49:22 PM

Yup. I'll wager "over 21" will be a done deal. I think Trump was cool with that, so like bump stocks, it will likely be a "gimme". I think there will be some significant lawsuits though, given it contributes to muddying the waters (on more than guns) on if 18 or 21 is "adult".

From what I heard so far, the murderer was 17. Couldn't have bought the gun legally. We might know more about that after a couple days.

Scout26 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 18, 2018, 02:12:40 PM »

I'll wager that the suspect(s) are from fatherless homes and on psychotropic drugs.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 18, 2018, 02:13:42 PM »

As far as the aftermath causing changes in the law, the biggest problem is keeping the NRA from talking about "compromise". I don't think Trump would sign anti-gun legislation, but if the NRA tells him it is a good idea, he might do it. The only other concern I have is Republican Congressmen getting weak in the knees over leftist media/propaganda.

In Texas, I don't think there will be any anti-gun laws passed. The legislature won't be in session until next January and Gov Abbott has been very pro-gun. If anything, it might hurt efforts to move toward constitutional carry or other efforts to roll back the restrictions already in place.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 18, 2018, 02:15:18 PM »

Quote from: Amy Schumer on May 18, 2018, 02:12:40 PM

I'll wager that the suspect(s) are from fatherless homes and on psychotropic drugs.

Yeah, I also heard he was bullied and one of the kids shot was the one doing the bullying. Just hearsay though, I didn't see that in an article. I figure the information will be all over the place for a day or two.

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #16 on:** May 18, 2018, 02:15:32 PM »

Too early for any real details but I'll make some predictions:
Shooter underage and acquired and possessed the firearms illegally.
Shooter had been throwing multiple "red flags" indicating a violent tendency for several months or more but was not dealt with do to PC crap.
Shooter made posts on social media that suggested violent tendencies and/or actual threats of violence.
Probably bought the bombs at a local gun show so he wouldn't have to get a background check.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 18, 2018, 02:17:32 PM »

If there were red flags on this kid, I will expect our Governor and whoever else to come down hard on the administrators involved. We will see.

BobR · « **Reply #18 on:** May 18, 2018, 02:20:29 PM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on May 18, 2018, 02:15:18 PM

Yeah, I also heard he was bullied and one of the kids shot was the one doing the bullying. Just hearsay though, I didn't see that in an article. I figure the information will be all over the place for a day or two.

We had a shooting here a while back at a small rural school. The kid doing the shooting was one of the "bullied" kids and the kid he shot was one of the main "bullies" according to some early reports.

That narrative disappeared pretty quick and they named a Highway after the kid that was killed.

So, even if the above is true, you may not ever hear about it or it will quickly be lost to other narratives. :(

bob

Ben · « **Reply #19 on:** May 18, 2018, 02:20:55 PM »

Quote from: MechAg94 on May 18, 2018, 02:09:28 PM

From what I heard so far, the murderer was 17. Couldn't have bought the gun legally. We might know more about that after a couple days.

I don't think that will matter to them. Several of these have been "underage" already and they have continually called for "over 21". I agree that it's nonsensical (just like every other time a current gun law is broken) but it sounds "sensible" to the general populace, so it's a good, "We've done something!" soundbite.

Kingcreek · « **Reply #20 on:** May 18, 2018, 02:34:01 PM »

If a politician wants to raise the legal age for firearms to 21, I'll say hell yes- as long as it's also age of legal majority for alcohol, tobacco, and VOTING.

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #21 on:** May 18, 2018, 02:37:41 PM »

Quote from: Kingcreek on May 18, 2018, 02:34:01 PM

If a politician wants to raise the legal age for firearms to 21, I'll say hell yes- as long as it's also age of legal majority for alcohol, tobacco, and VOTING. And joining the military

FTFY

BobR · « **Reply #22 on:** May 18, 2018, 02:40:28 PM »

Quote

If a politician wants to raise the legal age for firearms to 21, I'll say hell yes- as long as it's also age of legal majority for alcohol, tobacco, and VOTING. And joining the military

Bring back the kiddie cruise!!!

bob

Ben · « **Reply #23 on:** May 18, 2018, 02:41:47 PM »

Quote from: Kingcreek on May 18, 2018, 02:34:01 PM

If a politician wants to raise the legal age for firearms to 21, I'll say hell yes- as long as it's also age of legal majority for alcohol, tobacco, and VOTING.

Larry got in while I was typing, but yeah, it would screw those in the military unless that age was upped as well.

Constitutionally, I don't know how I feel about it. However, regarding pissing off the people who want to raise the firearms age, yeah, VOTING. You're either an adult that's mature enough to own guns, join the military, and vote, or you're not. Whatever the age of majority is, I think those three things should be tied together.

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #24 on:** May 18, 2018, 03:08:56 PM »

... and then this guy shows up:

https://twitter.com/MarkTimbrook2/status/997520663207399424

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