Author Topic: What caliber for carjacker at WalMart? (Read 2219 times)

MillCreek · « **on:** June 18, 2018, 08:58:03 AM »

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/breaking-gunfire-reported-at-tumwater-walmart-law-enforcement-on-the-scene/

Perhaps the caliber was academic for the carjacker insofar it sounds as if he was dead right there.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 18, 2018, 09:39:42 AM »

I pray that the victims recover from their injuries and the armed citizen doesn't run into any serious legal issues.

It sounds like the criminal didn't care who he hurt.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #2 on:** June 18, 2018, 09:58:44 AM »

Can't read article. They want me to log in and disable my ad blocker. Not "gonna" happen.

Unblocked version, from Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/18/carjacking-suspect-dead-outside-walmart-store-after-armed-citizens-take-action-police-say.html

Kingcreek · « **Reply #3 on:** June 18, 2018, 10:02:13 AM »

Glad the perp got ventilated. Armed citizens seem pretty common in many areas of Washington. My daughter and her family live near where this occurred. My son in law has never expressed any interest in CCW but he is ex army ranger and special forces. I think my daughter would carry before he would.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #4 on:** June 18, 2018, 01:25:22 PM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on June 18, 2018, 09:58:44 AM

Can't read article. They want me to log in and disable my ad blocker. Not "gonna" happen.

Unblocked version, from Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/18/carjacking-suspect-dead-outside-walmart-store-after-armed-citizens-take-action-police-say.html

If there is a reader view function on your ancient version of Firefox, you might try using that to get around some of those things. Sometimes, it will even get you past a pay-wall.

230RN · « **Reply #5 on:** June 18, 2018, 01:43:16 PM »

I hope nobody is charged, unless it's for technical reasons, and that the injured person recovers.

Thanks for the Fox link. I too hate that enforced registration stuff. (Although the male announcer, Adam Housley, could sure use some lessons in microphone technique and enunciation. He's a real marble-mouth.)

Caliber? Enough. And not too much.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 18, 2018, 01:58:56 PM »

As far as caliber, I would say anything that will reliably punch holes in the perp and do some damage. You may only get one or two shots and it appears he was shooting also.

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #7 on:** June 18, 2018, 02:05:12 PM »

I do so love a story with a happy ending :)

AmbulanceDriver · « **Reply #8 on:** June 18, 2018, 02:41:04 PM »

Quote from: RoadKingLarry on June 18, 2018, 02:05:12 PM

I do so love a story with a happy ending :)

Yup, bad guy removed from the gene pool, and..... Wait... A good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun? That unpossible. The media and liberals tell us that DOESN'T EVER HAPPEN!!!! FAKE NEWS!!!!!!

Hope all the innocents recover quickly.

MillCreek · « **Reply #9 on:** June 18, 2018, 06:47:36 PM »

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/police-gunman-stole-ammunition-at-tumwater-walmart-was-followed-and-killed-by-armed-shopper/

More details: the assailant went into the Walmart, shot the lock off the ammunition display case and stole ammunition, and then went out into the parking lot to try another carjacking. He was 44 years old with a violent criminal history. I am going to be interested to see any future news stories talking about the autopsy and any toxicology tests. I wonder if he had something on board at the time of his rampage.

sumpnz · « **Reply #10 on:** June 19, 2018, 01:06:19 AM »

Quote from: Kingcreek on June 18, 2018, 10:02:13 AM

Glad the perp got ventilated. Armed citizens seem pretty common in many areas of Washington.

Not far from Joint Base Lewis-McCord. Lots of .mil and associated folks around there. Your SIL notwithstanding more of them are likely to CCW than the general population I'd think.

RocketMan · « **Reply #11 on:** June 19, 2018, 08:52:28 AM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on June 18, 2018, 09:58:44 AM

Can't read article. They want me to log in and disable my ad blocker. Not "gonna" happen.

Unblocked version, from Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/18/carjacking-suspect-dead-outside-walmart-store-after-armed-citizens-take-action-police-say.html

That's odd, I could read it fine. It didn't ask for registration or give any other sign of a paywall.

Another story with a decent ending. It would be completely happy if one of the good guys wasn't in the hospital.

Ben · « **Reply #12 on:** June 19, 2018, 09:01:43 AM »

Quote from: RocketMan on June 19, 2018, 08:52:28 AM

That's odd, I could read it fine. It didn't ask for registration or give any other sign of a paywall.

Another story with a decent ending. It would be completely happy if one of the good guys wasn't in the hospital.

Fox News doesn't block you if you have an ad blocker. They just have a small popup that asks you if you wouldn't mind turning your ad blocker off, but you can just "X" it out and keep reading. The popup shows up on my travel laptop but not my main computer, even though both of them have ABP installed.

Back to topic, and regarding media, I have yet to see this story writ large in most of the MSM. I have a funny feeling that if it were a CCW holder who committed a crime with a gun, we'd be reading and hearing about it for the next month.

RocketMan · « **Reply #13 on:** June 19, 2018, 09:20:12 AM »

It was the Seattle Times article that Hawkmoon couldn't read. I didn't have any problems with it, which I found odd. Usually my installation of Firefox is not happy with paywalls.

Ben · « **Reply #14 on:** June 19, 2018, 09:38:09 AM »

Quote from: RocketMan on June 19, 2018, 09:20:12 AM

It was the Seattle Times article that Hawkmoon couldn't read. I didn't have any problems with it, which I found odd. Usually my installation of Firefox is not happy with paywalls.

Oops - my error. I couldn't read the Seattle Times article either.

MillCreek · « **Reply #15 on:** June 19, 2018, 10:20:23 AM »

I just delete the cookies for the Seattle Times web page and can read up to three articles before I have to delete the cookies again. I use the 'Forget Me' extension on Chrome to deal with the paywalls that have a limited number of free articles.

RocketMan · « **Reply #16 on:** June 19, 2018, 10:24:01 AM »

Quote from: MillCreek on June 19, 2018, 10:20:23 AM

I just delete the cookies for the Seattle Times web page and can read up to three articles before I have to delete the cookies again. I use the 'Forget Me' extension on Chrome to deal with the paywalls that have a limited number of free articles.

Thanks a lot, you had to go and ruin things by explaining it. Here I was thinking I was special and all.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #17 on:** June 19, 2018, 02:03:15 PM »

Horrible news for the left-leaning "progressives" who think all people who carry guns are terrorists. The "civilian" who shot the carjackers is

A fireman (lieutenant)
A medic (he provided first aid to the seriously wounded victim of the attempted second carjacking)
A pastor

So, just another deplorable, clinging to guns and religion.

MillCreek · « **Reply #18 on:** June 20, 2018, 10:32:42 PM »

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/pastor-who-shot-suspect-in-tumwater-carjacking-spree-tells-his-story/

Mr. George was also on the local TV news.

Hawkmoon · « **Reply #19 on:** June 21, 2018, 12:06:09 AM »

And, once again, I can't access the link.

Doggy Daddy · « **Reply #20 on:** June 21, 2018, 05:25:48 AM »

Quote from: Hawkmoon on June 21, 2018, 12:06:09 AM

And, once again, I can't access the link.

Ditto.

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #21 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:00:03 PM »

Link works for me.

KD5NRH · « **Reply #22 on:** June 21, 2018, 03:26:44 PM »

Quote from: RocketMan on June 19, 2018, 10:24:01 AM

Here I was thinking I was special and all.

As long as you keep licking the windows on the short bus, you'll still be special.

230RN · « **Reply #23 on:** June 21, 2018, 07:20:24 PM »

RocketMan · « **Reply #24 on:** June 21, 2018, 07:30:18 PM »

Quote from: KD5NRH on June 21, 2018, 03:26:44 PM

As long as you keep licking the windows on the short bus, you'll still be special.

That is such a relief. Here I was, thinking I wasn't special anymore.