Author Topic: Taking new shooter to the range @10:00 (Read 5146 times)

just Warren · « **Reply #25 on:** July 07, 2018, 04:20:24 PM »

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9mm 1911 Springfield EMP.

Never have had the privilege of firing one or even seeing one in person (that I can recall, anyway) but from what I've seen online it is an awesome gun and an excellent choice.

grislyatoms · « **Reply #26 on:** July 07, 2018, 04:48:41 PM »

Lol, Warren, I have done the "hot brass down t-shirt" dance myself. Luckily, didn't happen to her! This trip!

grislyatoms · « **Reply #27 on:** July 07, 2018, 04:56:46 PM »

Warren - I was asked by my close friend, co-worker, and gun-writer, Thomas Gomez, to critique the Springfield EMP4 9mm. He chose me because I have a decent enough understanding of how 1911's work. He's a Glock dude, mostly. I balked at first. Baah, 1911 should be .45 ACP.
I immediately fell in love with the product, after testing. I bought his sample on the spot.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #28 on:** July 07, 2018, 05:01:46 PM »

Quote from: grislyatoms on July 07, 2018, 04:19:48 PM

Folks, would you mind too terribly if she joined our little group? Would love to have her around here.

She doesn't sound like Our Kind of People.

grislyatoms · « **Reply #29 on:** July 07, 2018, 05:06:44 PM »

No joke. The firearm pictured in the article is the exact same hand gun we shot this morning. It's mine, now.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/04/11/pistol-review-springfield-armory-1911-emp-4-concealed-carry-contour-9mm/

grislyatoms · « **Reply #30 on:** July 07, 2018, 05:27:36 PM »

Fistful, you're still around? Wow. Yeah, my girlfriend is the rabble your Mama warned you about. But she's in my bed, not yours.

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #31 on:** July 07, 2018, 05:32:18 PM »

Quote from: grislyatoms on July 07, 2018, 05:27:36 PM

Fistful, you're still around? Wow. Yeah, my girlfriend is the rabble your Mama warned you about. But she's in my bed, not yours.

Then who's in my bed?

grislyatoms · « **Reply #32 on:** July 07, 2018, 05:33:59 PM »

Seriously, how are you doing, Fistful? How are things for you? I haven't spoken to you in a very long time.

just Warren · « **Reply #33 on:** July 07, 2018, 05:34:09 PM »

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Then who's in my bed?

I'm going to go with a monkey made out of socks.

grislyatoms · « **Reply #34 on:** July 07, 2018, 05:35:38 PM »

Quote from: fistful on July 07, 2018, 05:32:18 PM

Then who's in my bed?

Lol, you haven't changed! Good to hear from you, my man!

grislyatoms · « **Reply #35 on:** July 07, 2018, 05:41:52 PM »

Lol, you folk are the best! I have missed :old:each and every one of you!

Perd Hapley · « **Reply #36 on:** July 07, 2018, 06:51:12 PM »

Quote from: grislyatoms on July 07, 2018, 05:33:59 PM

Seriously, how are you doing, Fistful? How are things for you? I haven't spoken to you in a very long time.

Well, I apparently have to get new timing chains in the ole Canyonero, so...

AmbulanceDriver · « **Reply #37 on:** July 08, 2018, 01:13:43 AM »

If she tolerates you, I'm imagining the rest of us reprobates wont' scare her away. That plus I imagine the rest of the ladies on here won't mind having someone else to plot mischief against us with... :D

RoadKingLarry · « **Reply #38 on:** July 08, 2018, 11:45:03 AM »

Absofreakinglutely! Invite her in.

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One thing I've seen a couple of times with women is that if they wear a low-cut shirt that exposes their cleavage there is like a ~~99%~~ 110% chance that a hot case will find its way in there.

FTFY

230RN · « **Reply #39 on:** July 08, 2018, 12:01:48 PM »

Don't forget to tell her there are no ads, it's free, and the boys and the girls are both very helpful to newbies.

MechAg94 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 08, 2018, 12:22:10 PM »

A friend of mine has the EMP 4. I would say it is a great shooting gun and pretty compact.

On some of the previous discussion, I have pulled out semi-autos that were sitting loaded for a while and shot them. My Glocks and XD's and CZ's generally functioned with no issue. I had a Sig P229 that didn't make it through the loaded magazine with a failure. IMO, if a gun is going to sit in a safe or on the shelf unused for long periods of time, either find a very trustworthy semi-auto or get a revolver.

Fly320s · « **Reply #41 on:** July 08, 2018, 04:13:06 PM »

So, she likes the EMP best. Do you think she can become familiar enough with the gun to make it her primary gun? I mean, she is only a girl. Just because she can drive cars and motorcycles doesn't mean she can actually operate a semi-auto handgun. Yeah, she has a job and is self-reliant and is smart enough to know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em, but she is still just a girl. Those darn EMPs have four (4!!!) buttons and levers to push. Sure, motorcycles have throttle, front brake, rear brake, gear lever, turn signal, horn, lights, and actual driving to stay alive, but motorcycle drivers get to use both hands and both feet. That's cheating. That isn't nearly as complicated as working a semi-auto pistol. /snark

Serious time. If she can drive a motorcycle, she can drive a semi-auto.

230RN · « **Reply #42 on:** July 08, 2018, 05:12:10 PM »

When my arthritis got worse, I discovered that some blowback guns were very hard to rack, since they relied on a stiff recoil spring (and mass) instead of a mechanical lockup and a weaker spring.

(I originally noticed this because I had two otherwise identical Llama .380s, one blowback, the other a Browning lockup. As I got worse and worse, the difference became more and more noticeable. Women may have the same difficulty.)

Terry

just Warren · « **Reply #43 on:** July 08, 2018, 05:20:11 PM »

Those Beretta tip-up models sound like they would be just thing in that situation.

230RN · « **Reply #44 on:** July 08, 2018, 08:14:17 PM »

Aren't those just .22 caliber?

I found the Llama I referred to was easier to rack if I cocked the hammer over an empty chamber first. I gave it away, and sort of regret it now since I've regained strength in my left hand.

just Warren · « **Reply #45 on:** July 08, 2018, 08:16:35 PM »

No, there's .25, .32, and .380 guns as well.

230RN · « **Reply #46 on:** July 08, 2018, 09:35:31 PM »

^ Oh, I guess I'm behind the times on that one. Didn't realize they had expanded the caliber list. So I reckon they're all blowback? It's hard to imagine the mechanics of a locked-breech tip-up barrel.

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Quote from: grislyatoms on July 07, 2018, 04:19:48 PM

Folks, would you mind too terribly if she joined our little group? Would love to have her around here.

I don't understand. Why can't she just log in and boom! she's a member, no? She doesn't need our permission.

Terry, 230RN

just Warren · « **Reply #47 on:** July 08, 2018, 09:47:35 PM »

Quote from: 230RN on July 08, 2018, 09:35:31 PM

^ Oh, I guess I'm behind the times on that one. Didn't realize they had expanded the caliber list. So I reckon they're all blowback? It's hard to imagine the mechanics of a locked-breech tip-up barrel.

Jeez, "behind the times"? Just how old are you?

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They’ve been around now for almost seventy years—those little Beretta pocket pistols with the tip up barrels. Just what is the deal with those things and why would you want one? Keep reading.

https://www.guns.com/2013/03/14/baby-berettas-a-tale-of-tip-up-barrels/

230RN · « **Reply #48 on:** July 09, 2018, 02:18:47 AM »

I'm 79 years old.

This is the gun I was familiar with oh-so-long ago. Saw an ad or a blurb on it Lordy only knows when (now I remember they were also chambered in .25 ACP). But since I was not interested in tip-ups I never pursued it further, although I'd seen more pics similar to that. So if they chambered them in .32 or .380, that's news to me.

I saw nothing in your cited article about any stiffer cartridge chamberings than .22LR and .25 ACP. If you have further information on heavier chamberings in that type of action, I'd like to know about them, since I suspect they're too powerful (except maybe the .32) for this type of action. The .380 is really pushing the upper limit for practical blowback operation in a small handgun.

Terry, 230RN

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just Warren · « **Reply #49 on:** July 09, 2018, 11:35:23 AM »

Yeah, .380 is as far as it goes. It's like in break-tops, which I love, once you get to a certain level of pressure you've got to move on to a different type of action.

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