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Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« on: July 07, 2018, 11:20:45 AM »
...and tell us just what needs to happen in terms of training and equipment for this to happen.

Because, holy moly does this look dangerous.

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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2018, 11:33:21 AM »
The water, she's a need to be berry, berry smooooooth.

And the pilotas need to have berry, berry large cajones.
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2018, 11:44:43 AM »
I've seen a couple of bush pilot videos where they do this for landing (or watering?), and then just roll onto the shore.  I love watching bush pilot videos.

Oh, if I were only 20, single, wealthy, and ballsey, I'd be up in Alaska bush piloting.

https://youtu.be/TuymNRGAw-k

Just like water skiing.

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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2018, 11:58:57 AM »
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2018, 12:14:41 PM »
...and tell us just what needs to happen in terms of training and equipment for this to happen.

Because, holy moly does this look dangerous.

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Equipment: nothing special, just go fast enough to hydroplane.
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2018, 02:18:14 PM »
Training: very comfortable in the plane.
Equipment: nothing special, just go fast enough to hydroplane.
You’re pretty comfortable in a 320, right?

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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2018, 02:28:40 PM »
I'm guessing a jet that close to the surface will suck a lot of water into its engines.

So there should definitely be chase planes filming the event in case the jet crashes and we lose the in-plane footage.
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2018, 05:59:17 PM »
Training: very comfortable in the plane.

Pretty much what I was thinking; tail draggers are a different critter anyway, and I wouldn't think this would be all that much more challenging than the ones who do two-point landings and tail-up taxi on soft surface runways.  (Not that those are exactly a walk in the park even on asphalt, but it's not something I'd be surprised to find any experienced tail dragger pilot could figure out in a few tries.)

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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2018, 06:00:40 PM »
Looks like a fatal nose-over crash waiting to happen if the pilot drops too low and punches through the hydroplaning effect.
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2018, 12:02:28 AM »
I never even thought about trying water skiing with a plane. My dad told me that if done on smooth water with a tail dragger once the hydroplane effect is started you can’t force the plane into the water. You have to decelerate enough to loose the upforce on the gear or hit a wave.

Tricycle geared plane is another story.


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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2018, 08:25:58 PM »
I never even thought about trying water skiing with a plane. My dad told me that if done on smooth water with a tail dragger once the hydroplane effect is started you can’t force the plane into the water. You have to decelerate enough to loose the upforce on the gear or hit a wave.

Tricycle geared plane is another story.


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Don't forget you've also got the aerodynamic wing-lift going for you.  It's not like you're relying on the hydroplaning effect to hold up the whole weight of the plane.

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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2018, 09:02:01 PM »
I also have to think that in this video, there was a spotter in another plane that talked the pilot down to the water surface: 2 feet, 1 foot, six inches, etc.
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2018, 09:46:44 PM »
I also have to think that in this video, there was a spotter in another plane that talked the pilot down to the water surface: 2 feet, 1 foot, six inches, etc.

There were at least four planes, all doing it at the same time. Possibly pairs, spotting for each other?
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2018, 07:54:59 AM »
I also have to think that in this video, there was a spotter in another plane that talked the pilot down to the water surface: 2 feet, 1 foot, six inches, etc.

Not necessary.  A good pilot can tell how close to the water the wheels are in much the same way you can tell how close your car bumper is to the car in front of you.  It is just experience in the vehicle.  I don't use a spotter when I'm landing the A320; I know how close my wheels are to the runway.
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2018, 08:17:12 AM »
^ "A good pilot can tell how close to the water the wheels are in much the same way you can tell how close your car bumper is to the car in front of you."

Good analogy.

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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2018, 11:37:49 AM »
I don't use a spotter when I'm landing the A320; I know how close my wheels are to the runway.

Keep descending until you feel a thump ?

The only way my ex- knew how close she was to car in front of her was when she hit their bumper....
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2018, 12:05:48 PM »
Keep descending until you feel a thump ?

Only if I remembered to put the gear down.
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2018, 12:09:22 PM »
Only if I remembered to put the gear down.

It's just a louder thump if you don't.   
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2018, 12:12:01 PM »
Only if I remembered to put the gear down.

I nearly choked on my food there.
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2018, 01:51:55 PM »
It's just a louder thump if you don't.   

Followed be a long scraping sound.
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2018, 02:59:30 PM »
  I don't use a spotter when I'm landing the A320; I know how close my wheels are to the runway.

I thought you guys had that new fangled auto land. Just sit back and make sure it stays kind of on centerline during rollout.  ;)

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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2018, 03:07:13 PM »
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2018, 03:18:33 PM »
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2018, 06:55:23 AM »
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Re: Hey pilots, check this GIF out....
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2018, 12:01:08 PM »
Not necessary.  A good pilot can tell how close to the water the wheels are in much the same way you can tell how close your car bumper is to the car in front of you.  It is just experience in the vehicle.  I don't use a spotter when I'm landing the A320; I know how close my wheels are to the runway.

Don't you have an electronic spotter announcing your height above ground, starting at something like 1,000 feet or 500 feet?
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