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Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« on: July 09, 2018, 05:16:58 AM »
already being decried and protested against and it's not 9am yet...


And the left is going to stroke out this week, what with the SCOTUS pick, NATO Summit and summit with Putin. They won't know whether to poop or go blind...As every day will bring a fresh outrage.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2018, 07:40:51 AM »
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2018, 08:48:33 AM »
At this point if Trump nominated a clone/cross of Ginsberg and Sotomeyer the left would still find something to object to.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2018, 09:26:00 AM »
I signed onto the Virginia Dems mailing list last year. Mostly it's an annoying whine festival of GIVEMONEYGIVEMONEYGIVEMONEYGIVEMONEYGIVEMONEYGIVEMONEY, which I expected, but sometimes there's absolute comedy gold to be found in their Chickenshit Little screeches of "THE SKY IS FALLING AND DONALD TRUMP IS EATING OUR SOULS!"

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2018, 09:26:16 AM »
There is a Fox News article today where they sent a reporter to ask New York University students about Trumps supposed pick. They were all fire and brimstone, end of the world gnashing of teeth about how awful it was until the reporter asked for the nominee's name.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2018, 11:31:10 AM »
I love that he tweeted last night about his upcoming pick... he just did it to trigger and cause an extended mass amygdala response in a segment of the population.
There are millions of people on edge and ready to lose their *expletive deleted*it when he makes his announcement.

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2018, 11:56:59 AM »
I love that he tweeted last night about his upcoming pick... he just did it to trigger and cause an extended mass amygdala response in a segment of the population.
There are millions of people on edge and ready to lose their *expletive deleted*it when he makes his announcement.

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When Trump was first running, I was very opposed to him for a myriad of reasons. One of lesser import was that he seems brash, trollish, and crude. Not "Presidential."

As I've warmed up to him (and many of my other misgivings have, at least, so far, been allayed) I've decided I'm happy with someone brash and crude in the Oval Office.

The president ISN'T special. He is just like everyone else and I think it's useful to have someone with obvious personality flaws in the office to remind people that the president isn't and should not be considered "better" than that. Whoever he is, he's a man, and has failings and flaws, just like everyone else.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2018, 12:08:21 PM »
We've had brash, crude and unrefined presidents before.  Andrew Jacskson, comes to mind.  He gets big points for eliminating the debt and loses big points for the Indian Removal Act, but Congress has to own it's part in that also.
 
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2018, 12:09:48 PM »
We've had brash, crude and unrefined presidents before.  Andrew Jacskson, comes to mind.  He gets big points for eliminating the debt and loses big points for the Indian Removal Act, but Congress has to own it's part in that also.
 

That was my exact thought as I came around to this position.
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So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you also were meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought

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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2018, 12:43:30 PM »
When Trump was first running, I was very opposed to him for a myriad of reasons. One of lesser import was that he seems brash, trollish, and crude. Not "Presidential."

As I've warmed up to him (and many of my other misgivings have, at least, so far, been allayed) I've decided I'm happy with someone brash and crude in the Oval Office.

The president ISN'T special. He is just like everyone else and I think it's useful to have someone with obvious personality flaws in the office to remind people that the president isn't and should not be considered "better" than that. Whoever he is, he's a man, and has failings and flaws, just like everyone else.

I'm the same way.  I didn't care for him during the campaign.  I voted Cruz in the Primary and wrote in Mattis in the General.   I was getting ready to bury some guns (subsequently lost in a tragic boating accident), and hunker down for Hillary.   After the election, I went back and read what he had posted as his positions/promises on his website (I had read them before the election and said "Yeah, right....whatever.)  I told people if he did even half of what he promised, he'd be a great president.  25% and he'd be "good enough".

Right now, I'd rate him at 75%.  (The lack of a wall, and Jeff Sessions/Russia are the disappoiontments.)

Can't wait to see the left head toward the fainting couches tonight.


Even this British MP gets it.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho3r7NwtsnA

 
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2018, 02:04:46 PM »
I wasn't a trump fan in the beginning but I like him more every day.
He is doing what he said he was going to do and he doesn't care if people like him. And he has almost made a sport out of rattling his political opponents.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2018, 02:04:59 PM »
I'm the same way.  I didn't care for him during the campaign.  I voted Cruz in the Primary and wrote in Mattis in the General.   I was getting ready to bury some guns (subsequently lost in a tragic boating accident), and hunker down for Hillary.   After the election, I went back and read what he had posted as his positions/promises on his website (I had read them before the election and said "Yeah, right....whatever.)  I told people if he did even half of what he promised, he'd be a great president.  25% and he'd be "good enough".

Right now, I'd rate him at 75%.  (The lack of a wall, and Jeff Sessions/Russia are the disappoiontments.)

Can't wait to see the left head toward the fainting couches tonight.


Even this British MP gets it.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho3r7NwtsnA

 

That lack of wall you can pin directly on congress.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2018, 02:11:12 PM »
That lack of wall you can pin directly on congress.

Yes and no.  Trump is the party leader and the wall has overwhelming public support.  He should be able to push it through.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2018, 03:52:39 PM »
Yes and no.  Trump is the party leader and the wall has overwhelming public support.  He should be able to push it through.
And you can still lay that on Congress or at least the House and Senate leadership.  Ryan just had a compromise amnesty bill fall through so I am not sure what he thinks he is doing. 

The Democrats have become the pro illegal immigration party (and pro-drug lord party and pro human trafficking party) and are trying to block any attempt to pass funding for a wall.  And I don't think Ryan and McConnell want it bad enough. 
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2018, 05:38:46 PM »
And you can still lay that on Congress or at least the House and Senate leadership.  Ryan just had a compromise amnesty bill fall through so I am not sure what he thinks he is doing.  

The Democrats have become the pro illegal immigration party (and pro-drug lord party and pro human trafficking party) and are trying to block any attempt to pass funding for a wall.  And I don't think Ryan and McConnell don't want it bad enough.

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Trump needs to play hard ball with Congress, especially with those two, to get funding for the wall.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2018, 05:46:54 PM »
One piece of commentary I heard last week mentioned that one of the biggest election issues for Republican voters was border security.  I imagine it is a big issue for a lot of non-Republicans also.  Even though no wall has been built, Trump and a handful of other Republicans are the ONLY ones in favor of tighter border security.  The Democrats seem close to an open borders platform.  What I am getting at is that even if Trump hasn't built a wall yet, there is no one else out there trying to get those voters and Democrats are actively pushing them away.  We will see what happens in November.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2018, 07:44:05 PM »
We've had brash, crude and unrefined presidents before.  Andrew Jacskson, comes to mind. 
 

So does Lydon Baines Johnson. They just don't come much brasher, cruder, and more unrefined than LBJ.

In the "privacy" of the white house tapes, Nixon was rather crude and unrefined, too.

I suspect that Hillary would put them all to shame in the crude department.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2018, 07:45:28 PM »

The Democrats have become the pro illegal immigration party (and pro-drug lord party and pro human trafficking party) and are trying to block any attempt to pass funding for a wall.  And I don't think Ryan and McConnell want it bad enough. 

It's clear that Ryan doesn't want it at all. Not sure about McConnell.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2018, 09:02:41 PM »
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2018, 09:52:21 PM »
kavanaugh seems okish on gun rights, we have to get national reciprocity and strict scrutiny, we must.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2018, 09:59:19 PM »
kavanaugh seems okish on gun rights, we have to get national reciprocity and strict scrutiny, we must.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/05/potential-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-troubling-record-religious-liberty/

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The problem isn’t Kavanaugh’s analysis on the merits, which seems fine. It’s that Kavanaugh, disagreeing with the majority, even reached the merits at all. To do so, he had to find—and did find—that the plaintiffs had standing to bring the challenge because of offended-observer status. In other words, Kavanaugh’s opinion stands for the proposition (although he doesn’t use these words) that under the Establishment and Speech Clauses, the psychological harm of being offended is a sufficient injury to trigger the jurisdiction of a federal court to hear one’s lawsuit.

Let's hope he doesn't rule that way at SCOTUS.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2018, 11:07:53 PM »
https://www.nationalreview.com/bench-memos/judge-kavanaughs-record-on-second-amendment-gun-rights/


https://reason.com/blog/2018/07/06/scotus-contender-brett-kavanaugh-on-gun

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Kavanaugh, who has served on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit since 2006, dissented from a 2011 decision in which a three-judge panel upheld the District of Columbia's ban on so-called assault weapons and its requirement that all guns be registered. Kavanaugh disagreed with the majority's use of "intermediate scrutiny," saying an analysis "based on text, history, and tradition" is more consistent with the Supreme Court's Second Amendment precedents.

TL;DR:  Strong on 1A and 2A, so-so on 4A.
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Re: Trump's SCOTUS pick is....
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2018, 12:39:27 AM »
http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/05/potential-supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-troubling-record-religious-liberty/

Let's hope he doesn't rule that way at SCOTUS.

Why would we expect him to rule otherwise? SCOTUS appointments are for life -- it's not like he might have to run for reelection in two/four/eight years.
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