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Voting closed: October 23, 2018, 08:11:42 PM

Author Topic: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents  (Read 3656 times)

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When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« on: August 24, 2018, 08:11:42 PM »
I swear there is a editorial or Op-ed in the WSJ every other day, telling Trump to declassify all the documents that DoJ is stonewalling to the House.

I think he will do it, but I'm guessing that it will happen when it will have the most impact on the upcoming election.  So when is that.

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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2018, 08:20:49 PM »
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2018, 08:53:09 PM »
The sooner the better if you ask me … I'm never right so I'll just say that I don't think he'll declassify the documents any time soon …   :old:
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2018, 08:56:18 PM »
IMO, if he does it, it will be when he feels the media needs to be distracted from whatever else they are doing.  Not sure when that would be.
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2018, 09:06:28 PM »
What Mech said.  The Ds have been using the Deep State for political reasons all over the country.  I suspect Trump will expose them at a critical time before the midterms.
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2018, 10:47:22 PM »
I figure 10 days to 2 weeks.  Give enough time for the word to get around, don't anticipate the MSM will do much digging.

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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2018, 11:24:11 PM »
Is that a laurel and hearty handshake?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuHKWzWtBzM

You beat me to it.

But this version is better: https://youtu.be/IZT7xLjxuhs?t=34
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2018, 11:28:05 PM »
Is that a laurel and hearty handshake?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuHKWzWtBzM

Maybe .... but it could cause "another fine mess." [popcorn]
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2018, 06:51:56 AM »
I don't believe he will declassify the documents.  It would just add more fuel to the Democrats impeachment fire.
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2018, 09:57:26 AM »
I voted other, meaning never.
So, the even bigger question is: Why don’t we have the answers? Why are we left to speculate?

The poisonous thing about the Trump-Russia “collusion” controversy is that it appears to be more a political narrative than a real collaboration in serious malfeasance, notwithstanding the president’s penchant for acting like a guilty man. Is “political spying,” similarly, a narrative — just from the other side? At a certain point, don’t we have to wonder whether the people with access to the relevant information have decided they are better served by innuendo than disclosure?
That article is from a year ago.
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2018, 08:44:10 PM »
There's a good chance that wholesale declassification might cause problems for later prosecutions. With the news that John Huber hasn't talked to Bruce Ohr it's doubtful there are any deep state prosecutions on the horizon …
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2018, 09:44:11 PM »
Be funny if it turned out he was negotiating for territory for a McDonald's franchise.
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2018, 12:06:36 PM »
Looks like declassification isn't quite as cut and dried as I thought ...  :facepalm:

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AG Jeff Sessions is recused (frustration), and the request would be against the interests of DAG Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray who are participating in a cover-up of one of the largest abuses of power in American political history. 

The President needs the AG or DAG and FBI Director to approve and sign-off on the declassification request.  Under normal, non-corrupt, processes this would be simple.  However, under corrupt leadership, intent on hiding jaw-dropping abuse of authority within the institutions of the DOJ and FBI, the process is anything but simple.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/09/07/the-declassification-conundrum/#more-153736


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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2018, 12:34:56 PM »
But the process referenced there that "requires sign-off" is just an Obama executive order, it could be eliminated or rewritten by Trump.
There is no legal requirement for him to follow that process.
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2018, 01:39:46 PM »
But the process referenced there that "requires sign-off" is just an Obama executive order, it could be eliminated or rewritten by Trump.
There is no legal requirement for him to follow that process.

Friday seems like a good day for a Document dump ...  [popcorn]
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2018, 09:41:16 PM »
I have my doubts that the FISA documents will become available in any form that will be very useful unless you have an appropriate security clearance.  I suspect folks are going to be prosecuted with regard to this whole business; not just loosing their jobs.  However, everything could change if the Democrats take the Senate or House or both in the mid-term elections.  Stuff will just get swept under the rug as always.
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2018, 07:12:36 PM »
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2018, 07:34:40 PM »
In my opinion, it was likely done to deflate some of the Kavanaugh news.  If it hadn't been for that nonsense, I don't believe the docs would have been declassified.
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2018, 10:59:02 PM »
I just heard some 2nd hand news that Trump is declassifying the Carter Paige documents...
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2018, 11:04:21 PM »
Trump orders feds to declassify key FISA documents, text messages in FBI Russia probe

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/17/trump-orders-feds-to-declassify-key-fisa-documents-text-messages-in-fbi-russia-probe.html

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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2018, 11:04:41 PM »
Yup. Nothing to see here, folks.
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2018, 12:20:25 AM »
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2018, 03:57:00 AM »
Even though I was still in the single digits age-wise, ny Father made me watch the Watergate Hearings (along with watching the news each night) during Watergate (not you could watch anything else...).  And I remember all the Journalists clamoring for every documents that was ever in the White House to be released.  

Now when Trump says he wants the DoJ, FBI etc, documents (including the 302's from interviews) regarding the russia, Russia, RUSSIA investigation and what prompted it (FISA Warrants, etc.), along with all the text messages from Comey, Strozk, Page, Ohr, et al.  The media acts as if all this transparency is a REALLY BAD thing.


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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2018, 08:22:08 AM »
In my opinion, it was likely done to deflate some of the Kavanaugh news.  If it hadn't been for that nonsense, I don't believe the docs would have been declassified.

I agree, but I'm still happy they are being declassified.
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Re: When will Trump Declassify the DoJ Russia probe documents
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2018, 10:11:35 AM »
I agree, but I'm still happy they are being declassified.

Same here.  I was hoping they would be declassified, but really did not expect Trump to do so.
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