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The illegal invader caravan thread
« on: October 19, 2018, 05:07:52 PM »
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/10/19/no-big-deal-just-the-migrant-caravan-breaking-down-the-guatemala-border-fence-and-entering-mexico-video-photos/

Wait, wait, wait. Hold everything. Mexico has a border fence? Mexico? Bunch of frickin' white supremacist Nazis.  :mad:
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2018, 06:57:46 PM »
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/10/19/no-big-deal-just-the-migrant-caravan-breaking-down-the-guatemala-border-fence-and-entering-mexico-video-photos/

Wait, wait, wait. Hold everything. Mexico has a border fence? Mexico? Bunch of frickin' white supremacist Nazis.  :mad:

Yes they have fences/walls. Just about Every country has better border control and/or stricter immigration rules than the US.

When they get here load them on buses drive them to the nearest airport, load them on Galaxy C5s or whatever we are using these days and fly them right back.

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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2018, 08:05:39 PM »
They're already fighting with Mexican riot police. 
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2018, 09:33:17 PM »
Yes they have fences/walls. Just about Every country has better border control and/or stricter immigration rules than the US.

When they get here load them on buses drive them to the nearest airport, load them on Galaxy C5s or whatever we are using these days and fly them right back.

Load them in old CONEX boxes, and just unload over their country of origin with cargo chutes.
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2018, 08:29:01 AM »
They're already fighting with Mexican riot police. 
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2018, 09:05:52 AM »
Glorious!
There is going to be a wall, Mexico is going to pay for it, but it’s not going to be placed where most people think.

I'm to the point where a part of me thinks invading and annexing mexico would make more sense than building a wall.  We could then place our wall on the southern border.
Mexico is a broken country, has been for decades, that has allowed the unfettered flow of illegal immigrants and drugs into our country. 
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2018, 09:17:47 AM »
So do I have this right?

Mexico talks big about stopping them at their Southern border.
They break down and overwhelm the border barriers.
Mexico folds like a cheap suit and tells them, "Okay, we give up. Come in, but just keep walking to the US border".
When they reach the US border, Mexico will start yelling about how terrible the US is for not giving them sanctuary.

Did Mexico even try stuff like pepper spray, bean bags, and water cannons? The video clips I saw just shows Mexican authorities kinda standing there waiting as these people violently attack various border barriers. I mean, these people are packed together like sardines. It's not like they're spread out over miles of the border. I'm no expert, but if you have a Thermopylae situation going on and you're on the Spartan side of it, it shouldn't be that hard to deploy non-lethal deterrents and keep them going for days if need be until these knuckleheads tire out.
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2018, 10:09:17 AM »
I sent an e-mail to the President last night, encouraging him to deploy the Army and the Marines. The real Army and Marines, not National Guard, with live ammo and on the front line, not in the rear as "support" for the Border Patrol. This is an invasion of our country, and if we don't use the Army to repel an invasion, why do we have an Army?
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2018, 10:14:44 AM »
I sent an e-mail to the President last night, encouraging him to deploy the Army and the Marines. The real Army and Marines, not National Guard, with live ammo and on the front line, not in the rear as "support" for the Border Patrol. This is an invasion of our country, and if we don't use the Army to repel an invasion, why do we have an Army?

And how do you think 1000 or so dead civilians bloating in the sun will play out in the media a couple weeks before the midterms?


Don't deploy the military unless you're ready to kill people. That's what we do.

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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2018, 11:03:24 AM »
And how do you think 1000 or so dead civilians bloating in the sun will play out in the media a couple weeks before the midterms?


Don't deploy the military unless you're ready to kill people. That's what we do.

The very timing of this invasion is suspicious with midterms a few weeks away. Its almost as if there is a much bigger game at play.

I say let them into california and then build the border fence around california
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2018, 12:04:51 PM »
The very timing of this invasion is suspicious with midterms a few weeks away. Its almost as if there is a much bigger game at play.

I say let them into california and then build the border fence around california
I have seen footage come out showing guys paying them cash.  Someone is funding this whole thing you can be sure of it.  I wouldn't be surprised if bribes were given to key officials in Mexico to let them through.  I guess we will see.
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2018, 12:06:36 PM »
And how do you think 1000 or so dead civilians bloating in the sun will play out in the media a couple weeks before the midterms?


Don't deploy the military unless you're ready to kill people. That's what we do.
The concern I always had was military members put into a position where they had to use their weapons and then the politicians turn around and see them prosecuted. 
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2018, 12:15:14 PM »
I don't know quite what I'd look like if I was taking my family for a thousand miles walk and hitchhike, but I bet I'd have more stuff.
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2018, 12:23:57 PM »
Globalists: We must reduce the populations of people in 3rd world counties.
Also the Globalists: We must allow people from overcrowded 3rd world countries free access to 1st world countries with stable populations.
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2018, 12:37:14 PM »
There are way too many indicators pointing to this as timed, planned, and politically motivated. I only hope it backfires as spectacularly as the Kavanaugh debacle.
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2018, 10:52:16 PM »
I think this is going to backfire, politically, on whoever *cough* Soros *cough* is funding this.  This may actually spur, not only funding of the Border Wall, but also provide more motivation to GOP and independents to the polls on 6 Nov to vote to stop this crap. .

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10/20/we-doubt-cnn-reporter-meant-his-photos-of-migrant-caravan-to-be-a-walking-gop-ad/ 
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2018, 01:34:41 PM »
The very timing of this invasion is suspicious with midterms a few weeks away. Its almost as if there is a much bigger game at play.


I was thinking the same thing.  The latest news shows them about 1000 miles from the US border.  So if they walk 20 miles a day, every day, and the hurricane doesn't get them, and they are supplied with food and water (no backpacks in the photos I saw) they will arrive three or four weeks after the election.  Any bets that a group big enough for a "breaking news" report on CNN will arrive the weekend before the election?
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2018, 02:12:38 PM »
I was thinking the same thing.  The latest news shows them about 1000 miles from the US border.  So if they walk 20 miles a day, every day, and the hurricane doesn't get them, and they are supplied with food and water (no backpacks in the photos I saw) they will arrive three or four weeks after the election.  Any bets that a group big enough for a "breaking news" report on CNN will arrive the weekend before the election?

that's a sucker bet.
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2018, 04:12:51 PM »
I think this is going to backfire, politically, on whoever *cough* Soros *cough* is funding this.  This may actually spur, not only funding of the Border Wall, but also provide more motivation to GOP and independents to the polls on 6 Nov to vote to stop this crap. .

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/10/20/we-doubt-cnn-reporter-meant-his-photos-of-migrant-caravan-to-be-a-walking-gop-ad/  
That is my thought.

I am not sure Trump ordering JDAM's dropped on them would be too much but it would be a bit brutal and probably violet some law.  Maybe just create some craters in their path to stop the vehicle support.  Make Mexico happy that way also.
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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2018, 04:38:10 PM »
Just did a little more looking and some are on trucks and there are shelters set up now to house them at night.  So it seems pretty certain that our border will be front page before Nov. 6.  At the risk of being called a bleeding heart here, it's a shame that there are thousands of people who are being used to make a political point.  They may indeed get in, but I think many will suffer.
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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2018, 06:42:34 PM »
Don't deploy the military unless you're ready to kill people. That's what we do.

Political issues aside, is it wrong that I'm not morally opposed to that?

You've got thousands of organized folks moving towards the border with every intention of forcing entry. Personally, I've perfectly ok with an armed military response.

Politically it'd be a nightmare, of course. And realistically troops at the border won't be allowed to do *expletive deleted*it but put on a bit of a show of being there for "support".

Maybe I'm just a cold bastard, but I'm having  a hard time finding moral issue with the prospect of these folks being met with armed force to shut them down at the border.

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Re: Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2018, 07:00:22 PM »
Political issues aside, is it wrong that I'm not morally opposed to that?

You've got thousands of organized folks moving towards the border with every intention of forcing entry. Personally, I've perfectly ok with an armed military response.

Politically it'd be a nightmare, of course. And realistically troops at the border won't be allowed to do *expletive deleted*it but put on a bit of a show of being there for "support".

Maybe I'm just a cold bastard, but I'm having  a hard time finding moral issue with the prospect of these folks being met with armed force to shut them down at the border.


I agree with the above, and that's what I wrote to the President. What's the point of having an Army if we won't use it to defend our borders against in invasion by a foreign force? And that's exactly what this so-called caravan is. It's an invasion force, with the avowed intention of violating our sovereign territory by force, in violation of our laws.

The stories keep talking about women with children, and families traveling together, but look at the photographs and you don't see many women or children. There are a few, but the vast preponderance of the people are young adult males.

This is an emergency. How much hardened border wall can we put in place in the space of three weeks? Start NOW. Then plug the gaps with tanks, and ranks of riflemen.
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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2018, 07:23:12 PM »
May be a case of Divine Intervention …  ;/

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« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2018, 07:33:45 PM »
May be a case of Divine Intervention …  ;/

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It appears that the migrant caravan, which has been reported to upward of 10,000 strong, might run into some extra trouble on their march to seek American asylum. A massive hurricane (named Willa) is set to cross the path that the migrants will eventually cross.

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Re: The illegal invader caravan thread
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2018, 07:49:35 PM »
The next few days ought to go to identifying the addresses of all Democrat politicians and DNC employees.  When the caravan gets to the border they should be loaded on an appropriate amount of Greyhound busses and escorted by the Marine corp in order that all of the Caravan folks can be properly dropped off at those Democrat politician and DNC employee residences.  A squad of marines can be left at each residence to see that those poor folks are properly inducted into the families of the DNC employees and Democrat politicians.  A double serving should go to Pelosi and Schumer.
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