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Ginsburg injured in fall
« on: November 08, 2018, 09:20:31 AM »
Justice Ginsburg fell in her office and cracked some ribs.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/supreme-court-justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-fractures-3-ribs-in-fall

She's become increasingly frail the last few years. Based on that I've wondered how much of her staying with SCOTUS is personal work ethic or just a conviction to not give DJT another appointment opportunity.

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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2018, 09:39:05 AM »
She's become increasingly frail the last few years. Based on that I've wondered how much of her staying with SCOTUS is personal work ethic or just a conviction to not give DJT another appointment opportunity.

Likely a feeling of guilt because she held on so she could be replaced by the FIRST WOMAN PRESIDENT... and discovered she made a terrible gamble.
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Ginsberg falls, fractures three ribs
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2018, 09:47:06 AM »
If my mother, who is is really healthy and not as old as Ginsberg, broke some ribs I’d be really concerned.

Holding on has to be really hard on Ginsberg, it’s going to be a tough two years for her.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/supreme-court-justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-fractures-3-ribs-in-fall


See Brads thread, this is the duplicate - Ron
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2018, 09:55:03 AM »
It’s going to be a rough two years for her waiting for the next election.

Then if Trump wins again...

She chose poorly.

Not very good judgement on her part.

Blinded by ideology.
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2018, 10:19:31 AM »

She's become increasingly frail the last few years.

Yet some NYC millennial guy went to the gym with her and couldn't finish her gym routine.  :laugh:

Before this, I figured she would hang in until after 2020. Not so sure now. I was always expecting she would retire between 2020-2024. Even if she wanted to stay, by then, I don't think her health would let her.

If she retires in the next year, Trump could appoint pretty much anyone he wants, and the extra R seats on the senate will guarantee the appointment. Then I expect things to get sporty with the antifa, etc.

EDIT: I agree that she is a bad gambler. I suppose she thought Hillary was a lock, or at least "anybody but Trump". Given her age and time on the bench, the smart political tactic would have been to retire within the first year of Obama's second term. Garland would likely have been a shoe-in then.
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2018, 10:42:33 AM »
Y' s'pose she'll have time to read the Constitution while she's in the hospital?
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2018, 10:44:28 AM »
Y' 'spose she'll have time to read the Constitution while she's in the hospital?

Maybe .... but it will be the Constitution of the former U. S. S. R. >:D
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2018, 11:25:22 AM »
It’s going to be a rough two years for her waiting for the next election.

Then if Trump wins again...

She chose poorly.

Not very good judgement on her part.

Blinded by ideology.

^^^ This.

She is staying only because she doesn't want to give Trump an opportunity to name her replacement. That's sad, on one level. On another level, it's a demonstration that she is not an objective jurist. She is agenda-driven, so the idea that she might be replaced by someone who actually regards the Constitution of the United States as the highest law of the land, and who might base his/her decisions on what said COTUS says rather than what's happening in Europe is anathema to her. That's not just "sad," that's despicable.
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2018, 11:40:07 AM »
She is 85 + three cracked ribs + a few days lying down in a hospital bed = good chance of pneumonia.
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2018, 11:41:07 AM »
^^^Or a DVT and subsequent pulmonary embolism.  They will be watching for all of this.
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2018, 11:45:53 AM »
She is 85 + three cracked ribs + a few days lying down in a hospital bed = good chance of pneumonia.

That was my IMMEDIATE thought...

And I worked very hard not to be wishing it upon her. I'm instead praying she recovers.
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2018, 11:46:52 AM »
It is possible she was waiting for the results of this election.  We will see. 

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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2018, 12:29:13 PM »
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Justices often try to retire when the president is of the same party as the one who appointed them. Justice Kennedy was appointed by President Ronald Reagan, a Republican. President Trump may be an unconventional Republican, but he is a Republican.


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/19/us/politics/anthony-kennedy-retirement.html

So she should have retired before 2017.
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2018, 12:33:34 PM »
People on Facebook are going ape *expletive deleted*it that Trump might get to replace her...

And of course, people are also losing their minds that "Democrats got millions more votes than Republicans" yet the Republicans gained 3 seats in Congress, with cries of "it's not democratic!"

This isn't a democracy, *expletive deleted*it stains. The US is a Representative Republic.
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2018, 12:36:49 PM »
Just in time for the Rs gaining a bigger edge in the senate....
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2018, 12:49:46 PM »
Y' s'pose she'll have time to read the Constitution while she's in the hospital?
Probably South Africa's Constitution, which she prefers to ours.

https://dailycaller.com/2012/02/06/justice-ginsburg-causes-storm-dissing-the-constitution-while-abroad/
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2018, 01:02:58 PM »
Wasn't she going to move to NZ if Trump won ?
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2018, 01:19:32 PM »
Conversation at work after the reporter said that she was supposed to be at the court house today for Kavanahs official welcome party:

Me (being a smart ass): The way she feels about Kavanah, she probably did it on purpose so she wouldn't have to go. *Pause* It's pretty bad that I went there.

Katie: Yes, that's bad. *Pause* I was just about to say the same thing.


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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2018, 01:32:26 PM »
People on Facebook are going ape *expletive deleted*it that Trump might get to replace her...

And of course, people are also losing their minds that "Democrats got millions more votes than Republicans" yet the Republicans gained 3 seats in Congress, with cries of "it's not democratic!"

This isn't a democracy, *expletive deleted*it stains. The US is a Representative Republic.

OOOOOHHHH, it's even stupider than that.

The Democrats got 55% of the vote and LOST THREE SEATS!

Hmmm.... Let's see, the Democrats won 21 seats on Tuesday. (Two more are still being adjudicated). There were 35 seats up for election.

So, the Democrats, who got 55% of the vote won 60% of the seats. Seems to me they need to stop contesting the two remaining seats and give another one to the Republicans. In the name of Democracy.
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2018, 01:43:53 PM »
How long before the left starts up with the "Ginsburg was pushed" bull hockey ??
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2018, 02:06:27 PM »
How long before the left starts up with the "Ginsburg was pushed" bull hockey ??

Go on facebook with a fake account, post a conspiracy about being pushed. Collect Keks.
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2018, 04:34:38 PM »
That was my IMMEDIATE thought...

And I worked very hard not to be wishing it upon her. I'm instead praying she recovers.

Likewise. I don't want to wish ill on anyone, but I would not be upset if she accepted this as the sign that it's time for her to retire.
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2018, 04:38:01 PM »
People on Facebook are going ape *expletive deleted*it that Trump might get to replace her...

And of course, people are also losing their minds that "Democrats got millions more votes than Republicans" yet the Republicans gained 3 seats in Congress, with cries of "it's not democratic!"

This isn't a democracy, *expletive deleted*it stains. The US is a Representative Republic.

I don't have a Facebook account. Are you telling me that people out there are so stupid that they actually don't understand that senators are elected on a state-by-state basis, not by national vote?

Assuming that's true, this country is in worse shape than even I thought ... and I already thought it was pretty bad.
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2018, 04:48:22 PM »
I don't have a Facebook account. Are you telling me that people out there are so stupid that they actually don't understand that senators are elected on a state-by-state basis, not by national vote?

Yes.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/11/07/watch-joy-behar-claims-democrats-lost-senate-races-due-to-gerrymandering/
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Re: Ginsburg injured in fall
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2018, 04:48:47 PM »
I don't have a Facebook account. Are you telling me that people out there are so stupid that they actually don't understand that senators are elected on a state-by-state basis, not by national vote?

Assuming that's true, this country is in worse shape than even I thought ... and I already thought it was pretty bad.

A few are probably that stupid or ignorant.  I think most know how it works, they just don't think it's fair because it didn't go their way this time.

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