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Now young people are not having enough sex
« on: November 17, 2018, 01:51:05 AM »
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/

I wonder if this is going to lead to a significant drop in birth rate, with the implications for replacement of the population, a decreasing workforce and increasing percentage of elderly in the population. Much like contemporary Japan.
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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2018, 07:01:20 AM »
Man, Millennial's really can't get anything right, can they?

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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2018, 07:22:59 AM »
Man, Millennials really can't get anything right, can they?

 :rofl: :facepalm: :old: >:D [popcorn]

But mosly :rofl:

"Cut to the chase."

The article was a long way of saying ready and semi-legal availability of intense erotic stimulation has led to autoeroticism and reduced motivation to seek outside erotic interests --including marriage --in much of the population.

There are several potential correlaries and consequences of this observation.

One of which is the gradual reduction of cannon fodder for the armies.

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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2018, 08:19:04 AM »

One of which is the gradual reduction of cannon fodder for the armies.

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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2018, 08:21:44 AM »
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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2018, 08:36:53 AM »
Just because....

https://youtu.be/S4DZQhfrl5Y (1:33)

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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2018, 09:15:25 AM »
This was first reported at least a few years ago. Younger people aren't spending as much time going "out" to socialize in public.

Remember, we've spent the past couple of decades confusing and misleading them about what gender they are, what gender they should be pursuing romantically, what sex is for, what marriage is, or its purpose.
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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2018, 09:33:15 AM »
This was first reported at least a few years ago. Younger people aren't spending as much time going "out" to socialize in public.

Remember, we've spent the past couple of decades confusing and misleading them about what gender they are, what gender they should be pursuing romantically, what sex is for, what marriage is, or its purpose.

Additionally, with the metoo movement, they're going to reach a point where they're scared to death to make a move on a woman.
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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2018, 09:58:44 AM »
^^^The article made that very point. And is asking a woman for a date sexual harassment.
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2018, 09:58:54 AM »
If the female optics are good.

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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2018, 10:02:15 AM »
This was first reported at least a few years ago. Younger people aren't spending as much time going "out" to socialize in public.

Remember, we've spent the past couple of decades confusing and misleading them about what gender they are, what gender they should be pursuing romantically, what sex is for, what marriage is, or its purpose.


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^The article made that very point. And is asking a woman for a date sexual harassment.


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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2018, 10:30:55 AM »
Don't forget there is no "upside" to them getting married, because they know at some point they could have their reputation ruined, and be destroyed financially, and emotionally.  So the risk is not worth any "rewards*".



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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2018, 02:31:37 PM »
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/12/the-sex-recession/573949/

I wonder if this is going to lead to a significant drop in birth rate, with the implications for replacement of the population, a decreasing workforce and increasing percentage of elderly in the population. Much like contemporary Japan.

Illegal immigration will save us.  =(

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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2018, 03:28:46 PM »
That article covers a lot of different aspects, which I think is a good thing, since an issue this complex does not have a single reason.

On the particular subject of bad sex, I have to say that is probably a significant factor and I'd say it's one area where being in the "information age" is more of a curse than a blessing. There are a few things in life that you really do learn by doing and sex is definitely one of those things. Add in the new lack of taboo for acts that require a bit more planning and technique along with the difference between porn and reality, and you have a recipe for disaster.

The sad part is, I'm guessing the woman that are experiencing painful sex are with guys that really are trying to make things good, the guys just don't know how to do that. The worst part is that most of this could be solved by the simple expediency of talking about sex with each other, but despite progress in regards to acceptance of kink, masturbation and sex in general, people still can't just talk to each other about what they want and what they don't want to do.  =|
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2018, 03:49:47 PM »
If the female optics are good.

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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2018, 04:47:14 PM »
Just because....

https://youtu.be/S4DZQhfrl5Y (1:33)

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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2018, 05:02:14 PM »
Kevin Spacey was doing all that he could in this regard but does anyone appreciate his efforts?
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2018, 09:36:37 PM »
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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2018, 10:09:27 PM »
I suspect a portion of this is also due to the economic climate young men and women find themselves in.

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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2018, 10:14:18 PM »
That article covers a lot of different aspects, which I think is a good thing, since an issue this complex does not have a single reason.

On the particular subject of bad sex, I have to say that is probably a significant factor and I'd say it's one area where being in the "information age" is more of a curse than a blessing. There are a few things in life that you really do learn by doing and sex is definitely one of those things. Add in the new lack of taboo for acts that require a bit more planning and technique along with the difference between porn and reality, and you have a recipe for disaster.

The sad part is, I'm guessing the woman that are experiencing painful sex are with guys that really are trying to make things good, the guys just don't know how to do that. The worst part is that most of this could be solved by the simple expediency of talking about sex with each other, but despite progress in regards to acceptance of kink, masturbation and sex in general, people still can't just talk to each other about what they want and what they don't want to do.  =|

After 36.5 years of marriage (to the same woman) I can attest to the fact that practice improves the act. Add in communication and a real desire to please your partner and things just keep getting better. Maybe not as often but still better  =D.
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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2018, 02:06:03 PM »
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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2018, 09:24:49 AM »
This stuff was a lot easier before there were 57 genders.

Or perhaps, the millenials are rebelling against boomer and Xer promiscuity.
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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2018, 09:36:50 AM »
If I recall from other studies, married people have far more sex than single people.

But, as fistful notes, we've been lying to young people about the nature of sex, marriage, and life in general.

We've told them they need to "find themselves" or "pursue their dreams" before "settling down".

We've lied about the importance of a college education and how it is far more important than marriage.

We've lied about the importance of chastity for creating a meaningful lifelong relationship (i.e. Marriage). We've then made the destruction of that relationship easier than firing a public school teacher.

Is it any surprise that the "sexual revolution" is turning out to produce less sex?
 

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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2018, 10:00:59 AM »
I work with a lot of young people, both volunteer work and at my day job.  Despite what this article says, there are a lot of young people who still want a spouse, family, a house with a yard.  A lot of this depends on where you ask the questions.  You go to NYC or LA and ask, and you'll get a lot of career driven young people who are completely focused on career, advancement, and money.  A spouse may be an accessory to go with the suit they wear to parties.  Kids may be an accessory at the company picnic, or frankly an unnecessary expense with no return on the investment.  Go away from the big city and you'll find young people who are less about the career as the goal, and who value family first.

That said, I also overheard a group of college guys while visiting my son.  A girl flirted with one of the guys, who blew her off.  The other guys razzed him about blowing her off, asking why he doesn't want a girl.  His response:  "I've got the internet.  I can shut it off when I'm done, and there's no drama when I don't call tomorrow."
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Re: Now young people are not having enough sex
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2018, 10:07:11 AM »
I work with a lot of young people, both volunteer work and at my day job.  Despite what this article says, there are a lot of young people who still want a spouse, family, a house with a yard.  A lot of this depends on where you ask the questions.  You go to NYC or LA and ask, and you'll get a lot of career driven young people who are completely focused on career, advancement, and money.  A spouse may be an accessory to go with the suit they wear to parties.  Kids may be an accessory at the company picnic, or frankly an unnecessary expense with no return on the investment.  Go away from the big city and you'll find young people who are less about the career as the goal, and who value family first.

That said, I also overheard a group of college guys while visiting my son.  A girl flirted with one of the guys, who blew her off.  The other guys razzed him about blowing her off, asking why he doesn't want a girl.  His response:  "I've got the internet.  I can shut it off when I'm done, and there's no drama when I don't call tomorrow."

No generalization is EVER going to be correct in every case.* There are still many young people who have escaped the cultural push that has enveloped most of their cohorts. It's important to remember that, while NY, LA, SF, (inter alia) are not the whole of the country, they have a VERY large portion of the population of the country. And your observation illustrates how much our country is being more and more divided in that the culture of the urban areas has less in common with the more rural and suburban ones.

Statement two is Japan, which, like Europe, gives us a glimpse of where we are headed, as a country.





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