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https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/423410-ohio-doctor-who-said-she-would-give-jews-the-wrong-meds-fired

She might as well start looking for another medical job outside the US, because she is going to have a very hard time getting hired on at any facility here.
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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2019, 12:27:17 PM »
I recall maybe a couple of years ago somebody posted here about another young doctor doing some stupid crap as well and getting it blasted all over the social media.

With what it costs to get a medical degree, and what something like that would do to your career, I'd have the most sanitized social media accounts around. Well, I'd have no social media accounts, just like now, but other people...
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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2019, 12:28:43 PM »
Good thing they have social media accounts :)
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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2019, 12:29:15 PM »
Couple of questions...

1. Why did this take so long to come to public attention?

2. Why aren't such statements grounds for an immediate review (and hopefully revocation) of her professional license status?


I suspect, though, that she'd have no problem getting a job in the Netherlands, as long as she agrees to change her stance from giving Jews the wrong medication to giving old people the wrong medication.


And why are the hot ones always so freaking insane?

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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2019, 12:34:17 PM »
Hmmmm. I wonder where the antisemitism comes from....



She also refers to Jews as Yahood, the Arabic word.   I'm going to go out on a limb as say that she is of Arabic descent...
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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2019, 01:07:16 PM »
If social media is allowed to silence unapproved speech we’ll never know what we don’t know.

We need to protect diversity of speech and hear mult-cultural points of view.

It might save lives!
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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2019, 01:27:35 PM »
Good thing they have social media accounts :)

Well, she was no "sleeper," that's for sure.

I would rather hear about it than not hear about it, as has been pointed out.

(And as Ben touched upon, I seem to recall a similar case a while ago.  Are they recycling old stories as if they happened recently, or is this another example?  The "dateline" is today, but you can put today's "dateline" on the Pearl Harbor attack, I suppose.)

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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2019, 01:29:46 PM »
Hmmmm. I wonder where the antisemitism comes from....

She also refers to Jews as Yahood, the Arabic word.   I'm going to go out on a limb as say that she is of Arabic descent...

From other reporting, her father immigrated from "Palestine" in the 80s. And claimed the Israelis had imprisoned him without cause.
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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2019, 01:42:59 PM »
Couple of questions...

2. Why aren't such statements grounds for an immediate review (and hopefully revocation) of her professional license status?

Having done a couple of these cases, the provider still has a First Amendment right of free speech.  You can think or say whatever you want, but as long as it does not impact your professional obligations to patients, unpleasant or biased speech is generally not grounds for licensure sanctions.  However, many states have a 'moral turpitude' clause that can serve as a catch-all grounds for the state going after your license based upon certain types of behavior.

In this case, the provider was stupid enough to provide written evidence that her beliefs will, or have, impacted her professional judgement and obligation to treat patients without bias.  So if I were her, I would not be surprised to get a letter from the state medical board that issues her license, with notice of a complaint or licensure hearing.  

Speaking as the risk manager, I would also be firing her from my employment as well.  But you have broader grounds to discharge from employment than going after a professional license.
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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2019, 02:14:20 PM »
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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2019, 02:25:48 PM »
"Having done a couple of these cases, the provider still has a First Amendment right of free speech."

Not disputing that.

I'm just wondering why direct threats against a group of individuals by someone who is in a position of authority through use of the power of that authority isn't grounds for revocation of the license. To me that's just a little bit different than a generic "I really hate Jews!"



OK, just saw that the Cleveland.com article has been updated to note that it's not a license to practice medicine but a training certificate.
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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2019, 03:06:34 PM »
Having done a couple of these cases, the provider still has a First Amendment right of free speech.  You can think or say whatever you want, but as long as it does not impact your professional obligations to patients, unpleasant or biased speech is generally not grounds for licensure sanctions.  However, many states have a 'moral turpitude' clause that can serve as a catch-all grounds for the state going after your license based upon certain types of behavior.

In this case, the provider was stupid enough to provide written evidence that her beliefs will, or have, impacted her professional judgement and obligation to treat patients without bias.  So if I were her, I would not be surprised to get a letter from the state medical board that issues her license, with notice of a complaint or licensure hearing.  

Speaking as the risk manager, I would also be firing her from my employment as well.  But you have broader grounds to discharge from employment than going after a professional license.

She threatened to cause harm to her patients.  I would hope that they jerk her license(s) in every state.  She can go practice in "palestine"...

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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2019, 03:09:53 PM »
You're all thinking of Anjali Ramikissoon, 4th year Neuro resident who got drunk and flipped out on an Uber driver that wasn't hers.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/miami-doctor-berated-uber-driver-viral-video-fired-article-1.2611674
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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2019, 03:18:03 PM »
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/423410-ohio-doctor-who-said-she-would-give-jews-the-wrong-meds-fired

She might as well start looking for another medical job outside the US, because she is going to have a very hard time getting hired on at any facility here.

She just has to look in the right spots, IHS and the VA come to mind right away. They are so hard up for docs they will take any and all comers, the IHS more so than the VA.  ;)

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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2019, 03:23:15 PM »
I'm sure Britain and NHS would love to have her... And they are welcome to her....

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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2019, 08:09:19 PM »
She just has to look in the right spots, IHS and the VA come to mind right away. They are so hard up for docs they will take any and all comers, the IHS more so than the VA.  ;)

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Actually, in my experience, the physician employer of last resort seems to be the state or Federal prison systems.  I know of a couple of physicians who had licenses restricted or sanctioned due to sexual relations with female patients; and they both ended up working in male prisons.
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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
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When she's not practicing medicine, her hobbies include .... learning about other cultures .... and poisoning them

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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2019, 01:32:08 PM »
First year Resident, can barely be called a Doctor other than completing medical School. I don't think the Jews will have to worry about her treating them anytime soon, if at all. Good luck on finishing a residency, anywhere in the civilized world.

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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2019, 01:58:44 PM »
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/423410-ohio-doctor-who-said-she-would-give-jews-the-wrong-meds-fired

She might as well start looking for another medical job outside the US, because she is going to have a very hard time getting hired on at any facility here.


You're saying she won't be hired anywhere, because the medical profession is controlled by - TEH JOOOOOOOS?!!
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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2019, 07:26:40 AM »
She's now apologizing and saying that her comments were driven by visiting Israel and Palestine when she was a kid, but that she now keeps the Hippocratic Oath...

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/dismissed-ohio-medical-resident-sorry-for-vowing-to-give-wrong-meds-to-jews/
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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2019, 08:15:44 AM »
She's now apologizing and saying that her comments were driven by visiting Israel and Palestine when she was a kid, but that she now keeps the Hippocratic Oath...

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/dismissed-ohio-medical-resident-sorry-for-vowing-to-give-wrong-meds-to-jews/

And we should automatically believe that because ... why?
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2019, 10:50:03 AM »
And we should automatically believe that because ... why?

Because she is all grown up now and has repented her adolescent ways, in fact it says the anti-Semitic posts only went to 2017. Why she has done a full year without calling for the extermination of the Jews. Sound good to me.  ;/


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Re: Dear doctor, please don't make anti-Semitic remarks on social media
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2019, 12:22:00 PM »
Because she is all grown up now and has repented her adolescent ways, in fact it says the anti-Semitic posts only went to 2017. Why she has done a full year without calling for the extermination of the Jews. Sound good to me.  ;/


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Could you imagine how awful it would be if lefties started wrecking people's lives or careers over pre-2018 social media posts? It's a good thing they never do that.

With the way we now craft our morality by anathemizing whatever was socially acceptable 5 minutes ago, it would be especially bad.
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