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« on: January 11, 2019, 06:58:43 AM »

https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/joshua-tree-damage-government-shutdown-offroading-13524335.php

Joshua Tree National Park is still open, but understaffed. Are people grateful they can still use the park? Apparently not -- it seems they think that's just carte blanche to wreck the joint.

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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2019, 07:10:17 AM »

To quote Cameron Poe: "My first guess would be... a lot."
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2019, 07:13:44 AM »

Another thought: "Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

Apparently, so too, our national parks.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2019, 07:19:58 AM »

Sadly, that's become the norm. Here at the Museum we've seen a noticeable uptick in the number of incidents rooted in people's lack of concern/care for the antiquities on display. Teens are bad enough but a room full of drunk socialites is the worst. They don't give a crap about anyone or anything but themselves in the best of circumstances. Fill them with overpriced booze and they turn into self-entitled jackasses. More than once we've had one move a barrier or barge right into an "authorized persons only" area for a selfie with one of the displays. We caught one couple trying to life the cover off a modern-art sculpture because they wanted to see what the materials felt like.

I used to try and be nice because a lot of them are fairly generous donors. I don't any more. At the first sign of obstinate behavior I ring the campus PD and have them send a uniformed officer. That usually gets the point across that we're not kidding when we say "no".

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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2019, 07:51:51 AM »

Iĺve been in retail outfitting folks going on outdoor adventures for over a decade now.

When I first began I thought it was a good thing that more people were enjoying and learning to appreciate the wilds.

A decade down the road now Iĺve seen what ômore peopleö means to the environment and it ainĺt pretty.

Keeping these shitty people confined to their shitty cities and burbs and out of the wilderness is probably the best idea.

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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2019, 07:53:35 AM »

"To quote Cameron Poe: "My first guess would be... a lot.""

I don't even have to guess at it.

People are assholes. I hate people.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2019, 08:00:52 AM »

I still say part of this is all the people getting in for free. The kind of people who wouldn't go to a park if they had to pay, but "hey, it's free" are often the kind that are rude in other aspects of their lives. The trash problem seems to be mostly in California. I note places like Zion are closing down more because of snow/road maintenance issues and the like.

The National Forests here are free, with very limited refuse disposal, etc. and I have never really seen ridiculous trash problems like those recently pointed out at National Parks during this shut down. Of course usually the National Forest areas are a bit harder to get to, and I guess they draw a different class of people.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2019, 11:45:52 AM »

The media wants to act like itĺs a result of the shutdown but people trash, vandalize, and destroy the facilities and wilderness even when staffed. Also plenty of deaths, from murders to accidents to suicides. The media does love to push the shutdown narrative though
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2019, 03:25:02 PM »

The media wants to act like itĺs a result of the shutdown but people trash, vandalize, and destroy the facilities and wilderness even when staffed. Also plenty of deaths, from murders to accidents to suicides. The media does love to push the shutdown narrative though
What some people will do when they think no one is looking would surprise folks.
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2019, 04:41:46 PM »

At least now we know when the democrats go to all the national monuments/parks.
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2019, 09:27:44 AM »

I'll never forget when we were in Santa Monica a couple of years ago. Our hotel was overlooking the pier, and every night around 7 about a dozen tractors showed up to rake all of the garbage off of the beach. There was tons. As in, not a single one of the thousand plus people who spent the day there removed anything they brought with them. It was disgusting.
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