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Vox takes down Obama admin talking points on "skills gap"
« on: January 13, 2019, 12:19:41 PM »
So an economic theory blaming unemployment on the skills gap came out during the O administration.
Well, that was a lie.  Vox of all places takes the argument to task
https://www.vox.com/2019/1/7/18166951/skills-gap-modestino-shoag-ballance
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Re: Vox takes down Obama admin talking points on "skills gap"
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2019, 01:11:38 PM »
I realize this is anecdotal, but the biggest issue I've heard from people seeking employees isn't so much a skills gap - they're perfectly willing to do a lot of training on the job. It's just getting people who can pass a drug test and show up consistently. That started in the Obama years and has only gotten worse since then.
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Re: Vox takes down Obama admin talking points on "skills gap"
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2019, 01:23:15 PM »
It's just getting people who can pass a drug test and show up consistently. That started in the Obama years and has only gotten worse since then.

I have heard that as well. Is like 3/4 of the country on drugs or something? Holy hell.

I've also read about the "showing up consistently". I don't know if it's just mostly millennials or what, but the whole "come to work when I want to thing" is baffling to me.
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Re: Vox takes down Obama admin talking points on "skills gap"
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2019, 01:39:14 PM »
I realize this is anecdotal, but the biggest issue I've heard from people seeking employees isn't so much a skills gap - they're perfectly willing to do a lot of training on the job. It's just getting people who can pass a drug test and show up consistently. That started in the Obama years and has only gotten worse since then.

It's been going on longer than that but it has gotten worse as time goes by.
I was telling my kids when they were first old enough to get a job that if they could pass a drug test and just show up to work on time every day they would be be miles ahead of more than half of the people out there.
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Re: Vox takes down Obama admin talking points on "skills gap"
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2019, 01:39:45 PM »
Here in Washington state, we generally no longer bother testing for marijuana as pre-employment testing.
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Re: Vox takes down Obama admin talking points on "skills gap"
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2019, 01:52:59 PM »
I have heard that as well. Is like 3/4 of the country on drugs or something? Holy hell.

I've also read about the "showing up consistently". I don't know if it's just mostly millennials or what, but the whole "come to work when I want to thing" is baffling to me.

I think so. Around here the goal is to pretty much become a non working mother *expletive deleted*er on welfare and the ones that are halfway willing to work tend to value the pot over a job, even if they do have a family to support.




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Re: Vox takes down Obama admin talking points on "skills gap"
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2019, 08:19:27 PM »
There's also a problem with skilled, experienced workers in the tech industry - scientists, engineers, etc. - being unwilling to work for low wages. Hence the desire for foreign applicants with H1B visas.

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Re: Vox takes down Obama admin talking points on "skills gap"
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2019, 10:11:32 PM »
The showing up thing is huge. I work in a machine shop basically that helps mass produce food for fat Americans and furriners, as well as building our robot overlords. At almost 44, 3 welders are older, two are younger. We have several machinists in the sixties. We actually hire that old. Willing to take someone who served french fries and teach them to run a mill. If they show up... And you only get drug tested now pre employment or if you go to the hospital on the job. And it's a hurdle. Even when you tell them wink wink, nod nod that they only need to pass the initial screen.
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Re: Vox takes down Obama admin talking points on "skills gap"
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2019, 09:12:59 AM »
The last time I worked a blue collar job, about 11 years ago, they sent me to the drug testing immediately after my interview.  Later, I was told that supposedly the five prior applicants failed the drug test.   Worked out for me! :rofl:

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Re: Vox takes down Obama admin talking points on "skills gap"
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2019, 12:55:13 PM »
I've been injured twice in the last 25 years at work, both times being relatively minor lacerations that needed sutures.
In both instances, they made me pee in a cup before they would even treat me.
I've known of people who injured themselves at work, and immediately went home, because they were pot heads.
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