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On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« on: January 20, 2019, 09:10:20 AM »
An excellent example of why you wait till you have all the facts:

Yesterday some of you may have seen news on the "incident" in DC where some Catholic school kids in MAGA hats were taunting a native American who was minding his own business. Even the "conservative" news sites ran those kids through the ringer. From what I read, I thought they were jerks who needed to be expelled.

Twitchy (who also attacked the kids yesterday) now has a link up with what actually happened. The kids were minding their own business doing their school chant (not "build the wall") when the Indians walked into the middle of them beating drums. The MAGA hat kid didn't say a word. He just stood there with a "what do I do?" hesitant smile on his face while the old guy (with a long activist history) got in the kid's face, not the other way around.

Also, scroll down to the video of the "African Israelites", who were attacking both the Indians and the white kids using foul, racist language. Nobody reported on that. The MSM basically accused the kids of doing what the "African Israelites" actually did.

This has been a big weekend for "fake news". While I figured there was more to the Buzzfeed thing (because sucky Buzzfeed), I fell for this attack on the Catholic kids. Had there not been "alternative news" reporting and Twitter actually being used for good by showing unedited video, I would have been part of the tar and feather mob running these kids out of town.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/01/20/more-media-lies-looks-like-theres-a-whole-lot-more-to-story-about-catholic-students-harassing-native-american-protester/
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2019, 09:18:40 AM »
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2019, 09:25:37 AM »

Is Twitchy now the beacon for unbiased news?

No, but unedited video is.

Also from your linked article:

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Videos circulating online show a youth staring at and standing extremely close to Nathan Phillips, a 64-year-old Native American man singing and playing a drum.

That makes it sound like the kid got in the indian's face. It was the other way around. The kid was standing there and the Indian walked right up to him. So the kid is guilty for not cowering, bowing his head, and stepping away?

Certainly the AP is not unbiased.

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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2019, 09:50:55 AM »
Guilty until proven innocent!

Two weeks from now a correction will be published/buried and all anyone will remember is YOUNG WHITE MALE CHRISTIAN RACISTS MAKE MINORITY MAN CRY!!!

Any stirring of, or advocacy of heritage culture by any Caucasians will be condemned as insensitive and racist.

We joke about “Orange man bad” but more and more the reality of the media narrative is “White man bad”.

It’s almost like they are trying to provoke conflict ...
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2019, 12:29:18 PM »
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It’s almost like they are trying to provoke conflict ...

What makes you think they're not?
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2019, 04:36:54 PM »
Bwahahah....  We have such sights to show you.

Behold,  the Black Israelites

https://youtu.be/wPLP8B5G3-I
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2019, 06:26:08 PM »
Bwahahah....  We have such sights to show you.

Behold,  the Black Israelites

https://youtu.be/wPLP8B5G3-I
The whole Black Israelites thing is a new one on me.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2019, 06:40:25 PM »
The whole Black Israelites thing is a new one on me.

The Egyptians who built the pyramids were black and it has been discovered recently that Britain’s first inhabitants were black.

At least that is what they say   ;/

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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2019, 08:01:37 PM »
The Egyptians who built the pyramids were black and it has been discovered recently that Britain’s first inhabitants were black.

At least that is what they say   ;/


Along with every famous person who ever lived apparently. 
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2019, 09:41:46 PM »
The Egyptians who built the pyramids were black and it has been discovered recently that Britain’s first inhabitants were black.

At least that is what they say   ;/

Cleopatra was black, too . . . the records that claim she was Greek - specifically, Macedonian Greek - are all forgeries made by white supremacists some 2000 years ago.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2019, 10:17:15 PM »
Just as cooked as the most recent Buzzfeed horseshit. 

Nothing would make me happier than seeing two Hulk Hogan-esque lawsuits.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2019, 11:34:47 PM »
Media starting to back away from the phony bologna narrative.

https://reason.com/blog/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-video
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2019, 12:10:13 AM »
the black isrealites/hebrews have been around for awhile.
they're such a pain in the neck even our traditional enemies know the truth.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2019, 12:57:35 AM »
I always thought the Black Hebrews were just trolls trying to convince white-guilted trust fund kids to kiss their shoes for yootoob ratings.  >:D

Reminds me of the whack job stuff one of my coworkers is involved in, called Moorish Americans, which is a slightly kookier black version of white separatist sovereign citizens. He’ll end up in jail yet for tax evasion.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2019, 01:59:59 AM »
Media starting to back away from the phony bologna narrative.

https://reason.com/blog/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-video

It’s too late. Will be hearing about this as an example of Orange Man Bad, Catholics Bad(this one at moments I agree with, but more with Catholic leadership and not related to this incident), white racism, etc. for the rest of time. All those who saw this as a blurb on the evening news will never hear a correction. Those who posted it to sites like Facebook will never post a correction. CNN was still running with the original story at least a few hours ago.




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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2019, 07:58:56 AM »
Also from what I’ve seen from where news sites that have posted corrections, people who are heavily invested in their hatred aren’t changing their minds after seeing the corrections/retractions by news sources.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2019, 09:04:13 AM »
Also from what I’ve seen from where news sites that have posted corrections, people who are heavily invested in their hatred aren’t changing their minds after seeing the corrections/retractions by news sources.
I believe the proper libshit term is "we started a conversation".
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2019, 09:16:03 AM »
I believe the proper libshit term is "we started a conversation".

 :laugh:  Too true.

Some of what those black He-brothers were saying sounds similar to the Nation of Islam alternative history bosh. They believe the biblical Jacob was a black scientist/wizard, who created the mongrel race of Jews and/or whites.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2019, 09:34:12 AM »
CBS expanded on the story this morning, but also gave an interview with Drum Man that allowed him to put his (significant) spin on the event, without a rebuttal.

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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2019, 09:41:04 AM »
I believe the proper libshit term is "we started a conversation".

Indeed. And I will actually apply that across the political spectrum, at least on the social media. This is another good point as to why I think the Twitters and Facebooks have become more evil than good. People threw their hate on these kids based on false information, and they did so on platforms where thousands or hundreds of thousands of people saw it.

They threw out a strong opinion on something that turned out to be mostly false - opinions that "everybody" saw. Now they (because human nature) have to somehow defend themselves from looking wrong in front of all those people, because sincere apologies are too hard. It's easier to apologize and "look like a fool" on APS ( I have done this at least a few times here  :laugh: ) in front of dozens, than to do so on a platform where "everybody" sees that you were wrong.

Had this not been "immediate news" thanks to an edited social media video, you wouldn't have all these people covering their tracks. Of course I care less about these people trying to save face than I do about the death threats that are now pouring in for the one kid and his family.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2019, 09:47:09 AM »
Just another reason why I find myself tuning into old episodes of Welcome to Nightvale, instead of listening to the "real" news.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2019, 09:51:43 AM »
The propaganda used to be subtle, a gentle “spin” on the facts. Framing the narrative to allow alternative interpretations of events without overtly taking a side.

Now, they just lie to our faces, ignoring reality, telling us the exact opposite of reality.

All corporate mass media production is lies, always has been. It’s just more overt now.

Even the rights so called allies in media have their own agendas.


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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2019, 09:54:06 AM »
"now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb" -Dark Helmet

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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2019, 09:56:18 AM »
The only way for these kids to clear their name is going to be a massive libel lawsuit after the dust settles.  I'm not sure exactly against whom; there are so many targets. 
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2019, 09:57:47 AM »
We are living in two separate perceptions of reality.

The drummer guy probably actually believes his story.

Without the video his testimony would have been unimpeachable.

Even with video the left still sees something other than what the raw video(s) shows.
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