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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2019, 10:05:15 AM »
We are living in two separate perceptions of reality.

The drummer guy probably actually believes his story.

Without the video his testimony would have been unimpeachable.

Even with video the left still sees something other than what the raw video(s) shows.

These are the same tactics used by BLM writ large.
Show video of person being tackled/shot by police, but edit out everything done by the perp leading up to the 'racist police brutality.'
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2019, 10:10:04 AM »
It’s too late. Will be hearing about this as an example of Orange Man Bad, Catholics Bad(this one at moments I agree with, but more with Catholic leadership and not related to this incident), white racism, etc. for the rest of time. All those who saw this as a blurb on the evening news will never hear a correction. Those who posted it to sites like Facebook will never post a correction. CNN was still running with the original story at least a few hours ago.

I note that the Catholic leadership immediately threw the kids under the bus. Including their own school.


(I have deleted several times a comment I wanted to make about Catholics and screwing teen boys, as it is just hateful. However, these "leaders" have completely failed to fulfill their duty to protect those in their care and instead threw them to the wolves. That makes me seriously angry.)
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2019, 10:13:13 AM »
Interestingly a spokesman for one of the other Indian tribes there, who was more sympathetic to the kids (note, again, that the "drummer" has a long activist history), still felt he needed to "step in to educate" because he said he saw some of the kids doing a "Maori dance".
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2019, 11:06:29 AM »
Interestingly a spokesman for one of the other Indian tribes there, who was more sympathetic to the kids (note, again, that the "drummer" has a long activist history), still felt he needed to "step in to educate" because he said he saw some of the kids doing a "Maori dance".

So being native american makes him an expert and a spokesperson for polynesians?
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2019, 12:18:13 PM »
I note that the Catholic leadership immediately threw the kids under the bus. Including their own school.
The speed with which they assumed student guilt was appalling and truly despicable.
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« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2019, 12:26:09 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2019, 12:34:48 PM »
The speed with which they assumed student guilt was appalling and truly despicable.


And again, as I pointed out in my OP, almost everybody assumed guilt in the first hours. After reading through a political cross-section of initial stories, so did I. I've also jumped to conclusions when some conservative site released some edited video or statement that made a liberal look awful (because take that stupid SJWs!), only to later (often less than 24 hours) find everything was taken out of context.

This is the evil power of these social media video snippets, and it's only getting worse.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2019, 12:59:17 PM »
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Sorta think that England inhabitants being originally black may be inaccurate ....  I'm not sure the Romans noticed any blacks there at their time,  but I could be wrong.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2019, 01:09:03 PM »
Media posts from latest to oldest:

Verified Leftist Calls For MAGA Kids to be ‘Fired On’, School Burned Down
https://www.infowars.com/verified-leftist-calls-for-maga-kids-to-be-fired-on-school-burned-down/

Journalists and Celebs Rush to Delete Tweets Slamming MAGA-Hat Kids
https://www.mediaite.com/online/journalists-and-celebs-rush-to-delete-tweets-slamming-maga-hat-kids/

The Media Wildly Mischaracterized That Video of Covington Catholic Students Confronting a Native American Veteran
https://reason.com/blog/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-video

Catholic Teen Responds: “I Will Not Stand for this Mob-like Character Assassination of my Family’s Name”
https://www.toddstarnes.com/campus/catholic-teen-responds-i-will-not-stand-for-this-mob-like-character-assassination-of-my-familys-name

Looks like there’s a whole lot MORE to story about Catholic students ‘harassing’ Native American protester
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2019/01/20/more-media-lies-looks-like-theres-a-whole-lot-more-to-story-about-catholic-students-harassing-native-american-protester
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2019, 01:31:22 PM »
How old is Nathan Philips?  Is he really old enough to have been a Vietnam vet?  I'm almost 60, and I'm not old enough.  He kinda looks about the same age as me, just a lot more weather-worn.  But he could be 70...
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2019, 01:33:22 PM »
How old is Nathan Philips?  Is he really old enough to have been a Vietnam vet?  I'm almost 60, and I'm not old enough.  He kinda looks about the same age as me, just a lot more weather-worn.  But he could be 70...

67. There's stories on this now. It appears we pulled out a year before he enlisted. He seems to be now implying he is a "Vietnam era vet", which seems like kind of a dis to Vietnam combat vets.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2019, 01:44:03 PM »
The Egyptians who built the pyramids were Egyptians.  They had black slaves who worked rough labor, more so in the later dynasties. 
Sorta think that England inhabitants being originally black may be inaccurate ....  I'm not sure the Romans noticed any blacks there at their time,  but I could be wrong.

I thought there were reports of blue Brits, but I don't know about Black ones.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2019, 02:01:43 PM »
67. There's stories on this now. It appears we pulled out a year before he enlisted. He seems to be now implying he is a "Vietnam era vet", which seems like kind of a dis to Vietnam combat vets.

The VA calls me a "Gulf War Era" veteran even though I enlisted in 2005.  I never could figure that one out.
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« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2019, 02:13:46 PM »
The VA calls me a "Gulf War Era" veteran even though I enlisted in 2005.  I never could figure that one out.

I guess context has a lot to do with it, but those of you who wore the uniform are better qualified to pipe up than me.

I can see someone being referred to as a "Gulf War Era Veteran" or a "Vietnam Era Veteran" if they served in those time frames. I think the sticking point is if someone attempts to use that phrase to infer that they were in a combat zone when in fact they were in a stateside billet the entire time.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2019, 02:14:54 PM »
67. There's stories on this now. It appears we pulled out a year before he enlisted. He seems to be now implying he is a "Vietnam era vet", which seems like kind of a dis to Vietnam combat vets.

I think the picture is becoming clear that whatever service he may or may not have performed, he's a lying agitator (including about what his services was, if he did serve), attempting to smear and lead the character assassination of high school kids.

For having the temerity to wear hats.

But DEFINITELY take his word against that of all the boys AND video evidence. He's clearly more trustworthy than my own lying eyes. 
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2019, 02:58:41 PM »
I guess context has a lot to do with it, but those of you who wore the uniform are better qualified to pipe up than me.

I can see someone being referred to as a "Gulf War Era Veteran" or a "Vietnam Era Veteran" if they served in those time frames. I think the sticking point is if someone attempts to use that phrase to infer that they were in a combat zone when in fact they were in a stateside billet the entire time.

That's the way I see it. I enlisted in 1971, early enough to be in country during Vietnam but instead I was assigned to a carrier out of Norfolk and spent 3 years enjoying all that the Med had to offer. I consider myself as Vietnam Era vet, not a VN vet. I use my age as a barometer when people tell me they are VN vets. I went in at 17 1/2 so if they are younger than me they are most likely not telling the truth. But I am sure there are a few my age or younger that *may* have been in country. Following boot camp, advanced training and all of the leaves in between I reported to my first duty station in July of 1972. With the last combat troops being pulled out in Mar of 1973 I doubt very many who joined when I did made it in county as a combat troop.

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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2019, 03:22:18 PM »
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #43 on: January 21, 2019, 03:38:52 PM »
I think the picture is becoming clear that whatever service he may or may not have performed, he's a lying agitator (including about what his services was, if he did serve), attempting to smear and lead the character assassination of high school kids.

For having the temerity to wear hats.

But DEFINITELY take his word against that of all the boys AND video evidence. He's clearly more trustworthy than my own lying eyes. 

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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #44 on: January 21, 2019, 04:20:37 PM »
The "Vietnam Era" runs up to the time of the Mayaguez incident of May 12–15, 1975.  It is generally considered to be the last official battle of the Vietnam war.
If a service member served at least 180 days on active duty prior to May 15, 1975, they are considered a Vietnam Era veteran.
To be an actual Vietnam veteran requires that you actually set foot in-country as far as I understand it.  I don't know if there are any minimum time in-country requirements.
I am a Vietnam Era veteran, but not a Vietnam veteran, and would never claim to be one.
I will however, proudly claim to be a drunken-liberty-on-the-Gold Coast, New South Wales, Australia, veteran.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2019, 04:41:43 PM »
That's the way I see it. I enlisted in 1971, early enough to be in country during Vietnam but instead I was assigned to a carrier out of Norfolk and spent 3 years enjoying all that the Med had to offer. I consider myself as Vietnam Era vet, not a VN vet. I use my age as a barometer when people tell me they are VN vets. I went in at 17 1/2 so if they are younger than me they are most likely not telling the truth. But I am sure there are a few my age or younger that *may* have been in country. Following boot camp, advanced training and all of the leaves in between I reported to my first duty station in July of 1972. With the last combat troops being pulled out in Mar of 1973 I doubt very many who joined when I did made it in county as a combat troop.

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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2019, 07:04:14 PM »
https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2019/01/21/38181376/i-thought-the-maga-boys-were-*expletive deleted*it-eating-monsters-then-i-watched-the-full-video

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« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2019, 07:13:37 PM »
Unbiased reporter Soledad O'Brian (is she Beto's sister?) is now saying that the unedited video is still bunk and that the kids were doing racist "tomahawk chops". There was another video snippet to "prove" this, but for the life of me, I couldn't see it. Best I could see, if I had to make something up like she did, was maybe doing a fist pump or something in time to the drumbeat.

Kathy Griffin is still calling for a full doxxing of all the kids. There are also still plenty of grown men stating they want to "beat the *expletive deleted*it" out of minors, and still plenty of calls for them to be shot. I saw on Twitchy some Muslim activist said he wanted to punch the one kid in the face, and someone reported him to Twitter. The guy posted Twitter's email or tweet or whatever to him informing him of the investigation and telling him he did nothing wrong. Apparently somebody else that called him a jerk or similar for threatening to punch the kid, was in fact suspended for breaking Twitter rules.
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2019, 07:36:37 PM »
Unbiased reporter Soledad O'Brian (is she Beto's sister?) is now saying that the unedited video is still bunk and that the kids were doing racist "tomahawk chops". There was another video snippet to "prove" this, but for the life of me, I couldn't see it. Best I could see, if I had to make something up like she did, was maybe doing a fist pump or something in time to the drumbeat.

Kathy Griffin is still calling for a full doxxing of all the kids. There are also still plenty of grown men stating they want to "beat the *expletive deleted*it" out of minors, and still plenty of calls for them to be shot. I saw on Twitchy some Muslim activist said he wanted to punch the one kid in the face, and someone reported him to Twitter. The guy posted Twitter's email or tweet or whatever to him informing him of the investigation and telling him he did nothing wrong. Apparently somebody else that called him a jerk or similar for threatening to punch the kid, was in fact suspended for breaking Twitter rules.
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They knew he was a high school kid immediately.  On top of that, this isn't the first time we have seen news like this was completely untrue.  We see that sort of thing when discussing self defense incidents also.  The initial news reports are often false or misleading in one way or another.  A little skepticism is advised. 
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Re: On Those Catholic Kids That "Attacked" the Native Americans
« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2019, 07:39:57 PM »
Has Elizabeth Warren offered her opinion on this issue?
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