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Re: Younger Republicans are more liberal than their elders
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2019, 09:10:19 PM »
Shall we revive the Whigs ??  Modern day (Big "L") Party Libertarians only seem to care about MJ legalization but only pay lip service to everything else.

Actually, I did vote for Johnson. I figured having a President stoned out in the oval office would at least keep one branch of the federal government out of too much trouble.
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Re: Younger Republicans are more liberal than their elders
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2019, 09:20:54 PM »
Shall we revive the Whigs ??  Modern day (Big "L") Party Libertarians only seem to care about MJ legalization but only pay lip service to everything else.

You forgot kiddie porn, the libertarian seem to attract those to. And anarchy larpers. We need government of adults. Minarchy, or some such. But I see no hope in the current L. Even squishy on guns a lot.
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Re: Younger Republicans are more liberal than their elders
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2019, 07:27:28 AM »
There is no system that will have good results if it is run by bad people.

We are not just machines that can be manipulated by the proper rules, guidelines and inputs.

We are spiritual creatures who also dwell in the metaphysical reality.

The western world, common law and the natural rights of man were birthed out of a people who believed in very specific things regarding God, persuing the Good, the True and the Beautiful. Metaphysical realities and transcendent truths were at the top of the hierarchy.

The systems of government and law reflected internal maps of reality that corresponded to the Christian world view of reality.

A materialistic people designing a purely materialistic system will not have the same results. You’ll just get the same dysfunction we’re experiencing now. The blind leading the blind leads to both ending up in the ditch.

Trying to impose the old system on this “modern” people won’t work either. The old system worked because it was a reflection of the people. I’m in favor of going back to the old ways but I know it is a temporary fix.

The only thing that will work is the people changing their mind about God, seeking out the transcendent truths of the spiritual reality and living lives seeking the good, the true and beautiful.

The United States needs another Great Awakening, the people need to repent of making personal actualization their god and follow Christ instead. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. All other ways, lies of modernity and the culture of meaninglessness, will end in death.

We are a spiritually sick nation. Degeneracy, consumerism, class and tribal resentment cannot be fixed by laws.

Those are matters of the heart and only God can fix those problems.
For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity, that they may be without excuse. Because knowing God, they didn’t glorify him as God, and didn’t give thanks, but became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

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Re: Re: Younger Republicans are more liberal than their elders
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2019, 08:07:44 AM »
There is no system that will have good results if it is run by bad people.

We are not just machines that can be manipulated by the proper rules, guidelines and inputs.

We are spiritual creatures who also dwell in the metaphysical reality.

The western world, common law and the natural rights of man were birthed out of a people who believed in very specific things regarding God, persuing the Good, the True and the Beautiful. Metaphysical realities and transcendent truths were at the top of the hierarchy.

The systems of government and law reflected internal maps of reality that corresponded to the Christian world view of reality.

A materialistic people designing a purely materialistic system will not have the same results. You’ll just get the same dysfunction we’re experiencing now. The blind leading the blind leads to both ending up in the ditch.

Trying to impose the old system on this “modern” people won’t work either. The old system worked because it was a reflection of the people. I’m in favor of going back to the old ways but I know it is a temporary fix.

The only thing that will work is the people changing their mind about God, seeking out the transcendent truths of the spiritual reality and living lives seeking the good, the true and beautiful.

The United States needs another Great Awakening, the people need to repent of making personal actualization their god and follow Christ instead. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. All other ways, lies of modernity and the culture of meaninglessness, will end in death.

We are a spiritually sick nation. Degeneracy, consumerism, class and tribal resentment cannot be fixed by laws.

Those are matters of the heart and only God can fix those problems.
Right. Cause a god fearin bunch have never shown themselves to be just as problematic as any other bunch of morally superior folks who know what's best for you. No friggin thanks.

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Re: Re: Younger Republicans are more liberal than their elders
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2019, 08:57:49 AM »
Right. Cause a god fearin bunch have never shown themselves to be just as problematic as any other bunch of morally superior folks who know what's best for you. No friggin thanks.

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Atomistic, degenerate nihilism isn’t the answer.

If you are going to destroy the foundations of our civilization you should at least have the courtesy to offer a workable alternative.
For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity, that they may be without excuse. Because knowing God, they didn’t glorify him as God, and didn’t give thanks, but became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

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Re: Re: Younger Republicans are more liberal than their elders
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2019, 02:40:29 PM »
Atomistic, degenerate nihilism isn’t the answer.

If you are going to destroy the foundations of our civilization you should at least have the courtesy to offer a workable alternative.

How about "Just leave me the hell alone?" ?
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Re: Re: Younger Republicans are more liberal than their elders
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2019, 03:30:18 PM »
How about "Just leave me the hell alone?" ?

Exactly!
If what you are doing does me no harm I will leave you the hell alone and I demand the reciprocal.
Do we really need a hell of a lot more than that.
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Re: Re: Younger Republicans are more liberal than their elders
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2019, 03:51:02 PM »
Exactly!
If what you are doing does me no harm I will leave you the hell alone and I demand the reciprocal.
Do we really need a hell of a lot more than that.

And "because it hurtz my feelingz" or "because it's SINFUL!!!" or "BUT THE CHILDREN!!" doesn't count as harm.
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Re: Younger Republicans are more liberal than their elders
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2019, 04:47:50 PM »
If we left everyone alone how would we tell everyone what to do and make them do it?  What is a body supposed to be busy with if we can't do that?
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Re: Younger Republicans are more liberal than their elders
« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2019, 06:34:39 PM »
If we left everyone alone how would we tell everyone what to do and make them do it?  What is a body supposed to be busy with if we can't do that?

You'd just have to acquire a life of your own.
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Re: Younger Republicans are more liberal than their elders
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2019, 06:42:44 PM »
I’m not saying government should do anything.

What I am saying is that a libertine nation of people with no common culture, traditions and religion will start to come apart at the seams. It’s no nation at all, nothing binds us together.

Hedonists, narcissists and atheists all want the benefits of stable religious cultures without having any foundation to base it on and that’s not how it works.

Your “leave me the hell alone” philosophy will get you exactly what we have now. Progressive morality police enforcing inverted morality and reality denying egalitarianism.

Nations are made up of a common people, culture and beliefs. We used to be a nation of Christians, Christians of all flavors.

We’re no longer a nation but an empire, many disparate tribes under one state. Our empire is not stable, all of our tribes are fighting for power and control. You will not be left alone, that’s a libertarian fantasy that never existed anywhere. You are every bit the unrealistic utopian that communists are.

Better wake up. Once we become a minority majority country you will get to feel all the love the teaming masses of 2nd and 3rd world people have for you. Nobody will be leaving you alone.



For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity, that they may be without excuse. Because knowing God, they didn’t glorify him as God, and didn’t give thanks, but became vain in their reasoning, and their senseless heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.