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« on: February 10, 2019, 05:56:27 AM »

Dune is all about the power of whiteness
And also according to the article is C3P0   Face Palm!

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But why is Paul so ridiculously amazing and terrifying? The answer is pretty straightforward. Itĺs because heĺs white.

Duneĺs Paul Atreides Is the Ultimate Mighty Whitey
https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/2019/02/08/dunes-paul-atreides-is-the-ultimate-mighty-whitey/
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2019, 06:20:06 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2019, 06:26:51 AM »

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Noah Berlatsky is the author of Wonder Woman: Bondage and Feminism in the Marston/Peter Comics, 1941-1948.
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2019, 08:18:19 AM »

In our modern world race is a human construct.

There are no races.

There is only humanity, and the white people who must be put in subjection to the rest of humanity.

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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2019, 06:23:40 AM »

The fremen are white people too.

They are inspired by arab culture.

And arabs are also white people.



And the dumbest thing about this article is that is misses the point of Herbet's Dune series... that heroes are disastrous for humanity.  He spent the first books building up Paul, and the rest of the series showing the horrible consequences of a "messiah."  It is not a glorification of Paul (or white people  Evil) at all.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2019, 11:21:04 AM »

This appears to be mainly a plug for Empire of Sand.

Note that an Amazon link to buy EoS is in the article, but a link to buy Dune is not.

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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2019, 12:14:01 PM »

The author hasn't read Tarzan, either. At no point in the books does he return to the "savages" and become a better "savage" and rule them.

Especially since he was raised by animals, not humans. I'm betting his understanding of Dune and Tarzan are all coming from the movies.

Now, in Tarzan, there is the undercurrent of "noble blood" showing through in his intellect, but that's classism, not racism. I'm certain the Burroughs would have thought a commoner of any race would have failed to overcome his upbringing, but the "nobility" would triumph.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2019, 01:46:39 PM »

The author hasn't read Tarzan, either. At no point in the books does he return to the "savages" and become a better "savage" and rule them.

Especially since he was raised by animals, not humans. I'm betting his understanding of Dune and Tarzan are all coming from the movies.

Now, in Tarzan, there is the undercurrent of "noble blood" showing through in his intellect, but that's classism, not racism. I'm certain the Burroughs would have thought a commoner of any race would have failed to overcome his upbringing, but the "nobility" would triumph.
At the time Tarzan was written, that was not an uncommon view.
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2019, 02:36:45 PM »

The author hasn't read Tarzan, either. At no point in the books does he return to the "savages" and become a better "savage" and rule them.

I remember that he ends up being head man for a particularly "noble" tribe of black people.

But he does so as a civilized white man, not as one of them.

The Tarzan books has plenty of savage black people. It also has lots of savage white people, civilized black people, white people, degenerates, primitives, etc...

If one is to go by "race" being noble, primitive, savage, degenerate, or whatever(such as a couple cases of extreme sexual dimorphism) in the Tarzan series, one pretty much needs to shift race down to tribe or a relatively small geographical location.  Africa in the Tarzan universe should be at least 10x the IRL size to fit everything in.  Coloration is only a small aspect.
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