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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2019, 10:07:22 AM »
It probably wasn't clear in my OP, but that's what I meant. It is the actor "sabotaging" the movie because of her personal political beliefs. If I were a producer or investor in the movie, I'd be pretty pissed.

I've never cared about Captain Marvel. I was interested in the movie previously, but the star's actions are making me question that.

What is funny, to me, is that I've never had an issue with superheroines (or just heroines). As a child, I thought Rogue was awesome. (And I was annoyed in the first X-Men movie that she didn't have "her" powers (which she stole from Ms. Marvel) that made her awesome.) Some of my favorite villains were also female. However, the modern turn about how they have to be the BEST EVER!!! and SMASHING MASCULINITY!!! is annoying, and this movie sure is looking that way, thanks to Ms. Larson.

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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2019, 10:19:58 AM »
My youtube recommendations have been full of Avengers discussion videos and some Captain Marvel.  I haven't seen this subject mentioned at all.  Maybe it will come around.  Most of them lately are focused on the Endgame 2 moving coming soon and act like Captain Marvel already happened.  The only criticism I saw centered around people thinking Larson did not look like what people pictured as Captain Marvel.  Some thought she was too skinny which I thought was a odd.  Most comic characters I remember were always drawn like thin athletic supermodels.  Either way, I don't think they can ever make everyone happy. 

I figure I will see the Captain Marvel movie.  I have seen many of the superhero movies at the theater.  They have mostly been entertaining to watch even if some are better than others.  Even Black Panther (saw that one on video) wasn't bad, it just acted like Wakanda was in the middle of the US instead of in Africa.  Lots of US attitudes on race and such that I am not sure a xenophobic tribe in Africa would share. 
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2019, 10:21:21 AM »
They should of have done a Black Widow movie years ago.
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2019, 10:27:02 AM »
They should of have done a Black Widow movie years ago.
I have heard that discussion a bunch lately.  That was a side movie I never even considered or really cared about.  It would be a departure from the superhero model so it might be interesting.  I saw one discussion video saying it would be more spy movie rather than superhero movie.
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2019, 10:29:10 AM »
I have heard that discussion a bunch lately.  That was side movie I never even considered or really cared about.  It would be a departure from the superhero model.  I saw one discussion video saying it would be more spy movie rather than superhero movie.

So was Winter Soldier to a large degree and I consider it still to this day the best of the Marvel movies.
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2019, 12:22:43 PM »


My youtube recommendations have been full of Avengers discussion videos and some Captain Marvel.  I haven't seen this subject mentioned at all.  Maybe it will come around.  Most of them lately are focused on the Endgame 2 moving coming soon and act like Captain Marvel already happened.  The only criticism I saw centered around people thinking Larson did not look like what people pictured as Captain Marvel.  Some thought she was too skinny which I thought was a odd.  Most comic characters I remember were always drawn like thin athletic supermodels.  Either way, I don't think they can ever make everyone happy. 

I figure I will see the Captain Marvel movie.  I have seen many of the superhero movies at the theater.  They have mostly been entertaining to watch even if some are better than others.  Even Black Panther (saw that one on video) wasn't bad, it just acted like Wakanda was in the middle of the US instead of in Africa.  Lots of US attitudes on race and such that I am not sure a xenophobic tribe in Africa would share. 

Most of the complaints I've seen centered more on her acting ability.
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2019, 12:29:15 PM »
Lol  :rofl:

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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2019, 12:33:10 PM »
I don't have a dog in this fight, like I said above I've never read a single comic book in my life. I was just pointing out that the switch from XY to XX happened long before this movie according to wiki

2012 is not all that long ... 5 or 6 years compared to 72 years?
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2019, 12:56:13 PM »


Most of the complaints I've seen centered more on her acting ability.

This is also what I've heard and were my concern is.

We really follow the Marvel Universe and the Avengers franchise is my favorite of the two, so I'll be real disappointed if they produce a downright bad movie.
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2019, 01:08:08 PM »
2012 is not all that long ... 5 or 6 years compared to 72 years?
We're talking Marvel and I think you're stuck in DC
DC Capt Marvel aka Shazam and Marvel Capt Marvel are in two different universes.
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2019, 02:03:19 PM »
This is also what I've heard and were my concern is.

We really follow the Marvel Universe and the Avengers franchise is my favorite of the two, so I'll be real disappointed if they produce a downright bad movie.

It's going to have Samuel L. Jackson and Clark Gregg in it...can't be too bad.  ;)
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2019, 02:07:00 PM »
It's going to have Samuel L. Jackson and Clark Gregg in it...can't be too bad.  ;)

The Star Wars prequels also had Samuel L. Jackson in them...
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2019, 03:02:21 PM »
The Star Wars prequels also had Samuel L. Jackson in them...
They were better than the last one.   =)
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2019, 03:11:49 PM »
They were better than the last one.   =)

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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2019, 03:14:26 PM »

Most of the complaints I've seen centered more on her acting ability.
I guess I can't recall anything I have seen that she was in so I don't have an opinion on that part.  

Correction:  
She played the reporter in Kong: Skull Island which I have seen.  I still have no opinion as I hardly remember her other than she was in it.  That also had Samuel L. Jackson and aside from the coolness of being a monster movie was so-so at best.  My complaints were about the script and storyline, not the actors.  The crazy guy they found stranded was the only one I really remembered all that well.  I am more hopeful of the new Godzilla movie.  It is hard to screw up giant monsters fighting it out, but I am sure Hollywood will try.  Maybe they should just shoot it in Japanese and use subtitles or bad dubbing.  
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2019, 03:15:34 PM »
A kick to the jimmy is better than the last one.

That was how I got dragged into the Avenger youtube stuff.  There are boat loads of fan videos on youtube complaining about Star Wars and Disney. 
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2019, 03:40:41 PM »
That was how I got dragged into the Avenger youtube stuff.  There are boat loads of fan videos on youtube complaining about Star Wars and Disney. 

I've stumbled across a couple of those.  I don't see the point of spending an hour or more listing everything one disliked about a movie.  Just give it a thumbs-down and move on.

That said, this one is fairly humorous, if lengthy:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPsRp7uUXUk



As an aside, the prequels would have been a lot better if Tarantino had directed them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn8MZgZmeT4

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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2019, 05:03:44 PM »

As an aside, the prequels would have been a lot better if Tarantino had directed them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn8MZgZmeT4


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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2019, 07:17:46 PM »
We're talking Marvel and I think you're stuck in DC
DC Capt Marvel aka Shazam and Marvel Capt Marvel are in two different universes.

Captain Marvel was a he, and IMHO will always be a he. I grew up in the 1950s, when we didn't have comic hero "universes." The only universe I know is the one G-d created and that I live in. Thus my statements about revisionist clap-trap.
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2019, 07:23:27 PM »
Captain Marvel was a he, and IMHO will always be a he. I grew up in the 1950s, when we didn't have comic hero "universes." The only universe I know is the one G-d created and that I live in. Thus my statements about revisionist clap-trap.

Well, since the first apperance of Captain Marvel was issue 89 of the Avengers in 1971, I have a feeling you may not know what you are even talking about.  ;/

Furthermore, Danvers wasn't even the first woman to take on the title after Mar Vell died. The female Captain Marvel is old news. The fact that the actress playing her might suck and has decided to play to the SJW crowd like a female Captain Marvel is some kind of big deal is the real issue.
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2019, 08:15:08 PM »
Captain Marvel was a he, and IMHO will always be a he. I grew up in the 1950s, when we didn't have comic hero "universes." The only universe I know is the one G-d created and that I live in. Thus my statements about revisionist clap-trap.

You don't need different universes,  these aren't even the same franchise.  It's like saying that Capt Kirk was your favorite Star Wars character and the rest are revisionist *expletive deleted*it because they came after and have space ships.
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2019, 08:45:46 PM »
Well, since the first apperance of Captain Marvel was issue 89 of the Avengers in 1971, I have a feeling you may not know what you are even talking about.  ;/


The first appearance of Captain Marvel was in February of 1940.
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2019, 09:09:40 PM »
The first appearance of Captain Marvel was in February of 1940.

What I've learned from this is there are two different Captain Marvels.  I'm not sure how DC and Marvel Comics managed to do that; one should have been a copyright and/or trademark violation.  Perhaps if DC's character was first and Marvel used their own name...
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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2019, 09:12:01 PM »
You don't need different universes,  these aren't even the same franchise.  It's like saying that Capt Kirk was your favorite Star Wars character and the rest are revisionist *expletive deleted*it because they came after and have space ships.

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Re: I Wonder How the New Captain Marvel Will Do?
« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2019, 10:08:27 PM »
What I've learned from this is there are two different Captain Marvels.  I'm not sure how DC and Marvel Comics managed to do that; one should have been a copyright and/or trademark violation.  Perhaps if DC's character was first and Marvel used their own name...

It's explained in the Wikipedia article I linked several posts above.
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