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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2019, 03:01:39 PM »
I am getting more and more positive that we have neglected our duty of eternal vigilance for the last 70 or so years.
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2019, 03:41:52 PM »
"the Jew"?

Yeah, like in Romans 1:16:  "... first to the Jew, then to the Gentile."


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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2019, 03:46:43 PM »
I sincerely hope the Democrats continue with their blatting...in fact I hope they ramp it up.  Half of America might not participate in elections muchly...except when one side demonizes the other.  America goes for the underdog.  The more they demonize Trump, capitalism, Israel, the Constitution and BoR, guns, and everything think else that is good about America, one more usual non voter comes out and votes against the D's.  Remember Clinton's 2nd win?
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2019, 07:27:33 PM »
I am getting more and more positive that we have neglected our duty of eternal vigilance for the last 70 or so years.

What was your first clue?     >:D  [/sarcasm] 


Seriously,   we have.  Very much so.
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2019, 10:12:42 PM »
Conspiracy co-worker informs me that Omar is working for AIPAC, in a bid to I guess criminalize anti-Israeli speech or something? I often avoid asking him to elaborate, as it just eggs him on. He likes to sneer at people for caring about politics, because "it's all such an obvious game," or whatever, but if you get him started on politics, he doesn't like to stop blathering.
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2019, 11:13:41 PM »
I just wanted to take a moment to say diversity is our strength.
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2019, 09:09:13 AM »
There is much good to emulate regarding Israel.

Strong border control including a big beautiful wall.

Strong national identity along with strict immigration policies.

A strong Israel first foreign policy.

A strong Israel first policy in relation to economic policies.

Hopefully President Trump will be able to institutionalize these principles in his time as president here in the USA.

A large percentage of the diaspora Jewish American population seem to reject all of these above policies for us here in the USA, funny that.

Especially considering that a strong USA is a better guarantor of the nation of Israel’s security.

I don’t know anything about Jewish factions but it’s obvious they aren’t completely monolithic. There is a real strong Jewish influence in the Trump administration and there hasn’t been such an overtly nationalist pro-America president as President Trump in my lifetime. We need to encourage and strengthen the nationalist Jewish American faction. They need to supplant the Marxist leftist Jewish groups that most folks identify as typical of American Jews.

Now let’s build the damn wall.
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2019, 09:40:34 AM »
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    UPDATE: Vote on resolution condemning anti-Semitism may be pushed back. Congressional Black Caucus and Congressional Progressive Caucus pressing for a delay. https://t.co/EyV8Xm1v0p
    — Sheryl Gay Stolberg (@SherylNYT) March 5, 2019
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    .@SpeakerPelosi confirms she talked to Omar over the weekend and that resolution will be expanded to tackle anti-Muslim bias:

    "There will be a vote this week and we will see what it is when we are finished writing it," she told reporters.
    — Heather Caygle (@heatherscope) March 6, 2019
Resolution Against Anti-Semitism Delayed Because Dems Want it Expanded to Include This...
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/03/05/resolution-against-antisemitism-delayed-because-n2542652
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2019, 09:50:16 AM »
Resolution Against Anti-Semitism Delayed Because Dems Want it Expanded to Include This...
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2019/03/05/resolution-against-antisemitism-delayed-because-n2542652


So can we expect them to also included anti-Christian, anti-Buddhist, etc.?

Again, I have indeed changed my mind about "needs to go" because this stuff from her and the other new kids is going sway moderates, and not in the way these people want. It's like capitulating to five year olds having temper tantrums at the Walmart. I now encourage them to keep this crap up.
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2019, 10:33:42 AM »
So can we expect them to also included anti-Christian, anti-Buddhist, etc.?

Again, I have indeed changed my mind about "needs to go" because this stuff from her and the other new kids is going sway moderates, and not in the way these people want. It's like capitulating to five year olds having temper tantrums at the Walmart. I now encourage them to keep this crap up.


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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2019, 11:37:19 AM »
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    One of the things that is hurtful about the extent to which reprimand is sought of Ilhan is that no one seeks this level of reprimand when members make statements about Latinx + other communities (during the shutdown, a GOP member yelled “Go back to Puerto Rico!” on the floor). https://t.co/MwrRN4v4DG
    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) March 5, 2019

Wonder if she's even aware PR is part of the USA?
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2019, 12:20:09 PM »
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2019, 08:08:09 AM »
She should remain in Congress. She accurately reflects the views of her constituency.

In a multicultural diverse country we are going to have to learn to tolerate opinions that are held by marginalized communities and people’s.
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2019, 08:54:33 AM »


I simply fail to understand westerners who support those who would kill them, instantly, if they ever took power....
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2019, 09:19:53 AM »
I am getting more and more positive that we have neglected our duty of eternal vigilance for the last 70 or so years.
Antisemitism was always there and will likely always be there.  It was just pushed out of the public discourse because of the social stigma from the Holocaust.  That stigma is falling away with time. 
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2019, 09:22:30 AM »
Antisemitism was always there and will likely always be there.  It was just pushed out of the public discourse because of the social stigma from the Holocaust.  That stigma is falling away with time. 

Hush now

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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2019, 09:59:26 AM »
I simply fail to understand westerners who support those who would kill them, instantly, if they ever took power....

Ironic isn't it? The only religion they tolerate and even protect is the same one that wants to provide them free flying lessons
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2019, 10:59:26 AM »
If she really wants to ruffle feathers she should try and get legislation that requires US Congressman to renounce and legally terminate their dual citizenship to another nation.

I wonder how many other nations allow members of their legislatures to have such deep conflicts of interest?

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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2019, 11:03:52 AM »
If she really wants to ruffle feathers she should try and get legislation that requires US Congressman to renounce and legally terminate their dual citizenship to another nation.

I wonder how many other nations allow members of their legislatures to have such deep conflicts of interest?

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Wonder how many nations would tolerate legislatures who think non-citizens, and illegal ones at that, should be allowed to vote
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« Reply #44 on: March 07, 2019, 11:12:02 AM »
Wonder how many nations would tolerate legislatures who think non-citizens, and illegal ones at that, should be allowed to vote
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2019, 12:12:52 PM »
I simply fail to understand westerners who support those who would kill them, instantly, if they ever took power....

I agree. I don't care if she represents the attitudes and opinions of her constituency. Her constituency would eliminate me and all people like me in a heartbeat if they could.
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2019, 01:26:13 PM »
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When asked if Omar should apologize, Pelosi said, “It’s up to her to explain. I do not believe she understood the full weight of the words.”

She continued, “When you’re a congressman you are an advocate out there, who I was. I appreciate all the enthusiasm. I told you that before. That was me pushing a stroller and carrying those signs. I understand how advocates come in with their enthusiasms. But when you cross that threshold in the Congress, your words weigh much more than when you’re shouting at somebody outside. And I feel confident that her words were not based on any antisemitic attitude. But that she didn’t have a full appreciation of how they landed on other people where these words have a history and a cultural impact that might have been unknown to her.”
Pelosi Refuses to Say Omar Should Apologize: ‘Her Words Were Not Based on Any Antisemitic Attitude’
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/03/07/pelosi-refuses-to-say-omar-should-apologize-her-words-were-not-based-on-any-anti-semitic-attitude/

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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2019, 01:35:16 PM »


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House resolution to condemn anti-Semitism delayed indefinitely

Congressman James Clyburn, D-S.C., defended freshman Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., Wednesday by saying her experience was "more personal" than Jews whose parents survived the Holocaust.

Clyburn argued Omar's experience "is much more empirical -- and powerful -- than that of people who are generations removed from the Holocaust, Japanese internment camps during WWII and the other violent episodes that have marked history," according to a report in The Hill.

“I’m serious about that. There are people who tell me, ‘Well, my parents are Holocaust survivors.’ ‘My parents did this.’ It’s more personal with her,” Clyburn said.

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“I’ve talked to her, and I can tell you she is living through a lot of pain.”
Ilhan Omar's experience 'more personal' than Jews whose parents survived the Holocaust: Dem congressman
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omars-experience-more-personal-than-jews-whose-parents-survived-the-holocaust-dem-congressman
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2019, 02:15:32 PM »
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Clyburn argued Omar's experience "is much more empirical -- and powerful -- than that of people who are generations removed from the Holocaust, Japanese internment camps during WWII and the other violent episodes that have marked history," according to a report in The Hill.

“I’m serious about that. There are people who tell me, ‘Well, my parents are Holocaust survivors.’ ‘My parents did this.’ It’s more personal with her,” Clyburn said.

So he's against reparations then? Or no?
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Re: Omar Needs to Go
« Reply #49 on: March 07, 2019, 02:24:48 PM »
Ilhan Omar's experience 'more personal' than Jews whose parents survived the Holocaust: Dem congressman
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ilhan-omars-experience-more-personal-than-jews-whose-parents-survived-the-holocaust-dem-congressman

Excuse me, Mr. Clyburn? Can you explain to me what it is that the Jews did to her that gives her such a more authentic experience that makes her hate Jews?

I would be surprised to learn that the Somali Jewish population (all two of them) was busy committing genocide and throwing people out of their homes, turning Ms. Omar into a refugee.
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