Finally some movement on Constitutional Carry in Kentucky

[WLJ]

We've long been a permitless open carry state but still required a permit for conceal carry which kind of makes it a bear to carry in the winter for those without a CC permit. I believe just about the only thing that has prevented it from happening before is they don't want to lose the money they make on the permits.
Now on to the house
I believe Gov Bevin will sign it if reaches his desk

Kentucky Senate Passes Constitutional Carry Bill, Moms Demand Action OUTRAGED!
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2019/02/daniel-zimmerman/kentucky-senate-passes-constitutional-carry-bill-moms-demand-action-outraged/


Kentucky Senate approves NRA gun bill on anniversary of Parkland school shooting
Read more here: https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article226259470.html#storylink=cpy

[Boomhauer]

Second one isn’t a biased headline at all, no sir

[WLJ]

That Lexington bird cage liner is as far left as any left coast newspaper.
Our local Louisville newspaper, The Courier Journal, isn't too far behind though they do have their moments.

[WLJ]

In fact I didn't think to look on the The Courier Journal's website but now that I have I'm not finding anything on it. Odd

[WLJ]

BTW: "Moms Demand Action" Sounds like a porn movie title

[Andiron]

BTW: "Moms Demand Action" Sounds like a porn movie title

They're as tone deaf as the PoundMeToo movement 

[WLJ]

Some of the more WTF amendments some of the Ds in the house are trying to tack on to derail this

Amendment    House Floor Amendment 10
Sponsor    M. Marzian
Summary    Amend KRS 199.570 to require the Cabinet for Health and Family Services to provide a handgun to each adoptive parent and the adopted child when a new birth certificate is issued.

Amendment    House Floor Amendment 9
Sponsor    M. Marzian
Summary    Amend KRS 402.100 to require that county clerks provide handguns to each party named on any application for a marriage license.

Amendment    House Floor Amendment 12
Sponsor    M. Marzian
Summary    Amend KRS 186.490 to require that handguns be provided to any person acquiring a commercial driver's license or an operator's license.

Amendment    House Floor Amendment 13
Sponsor    M. Marzian
Summary    Create a new section of KRS Chapter 335B to require that a handgun be provided to each person who is granted a professional license from the state.

Amendment    House Floor Amendment 14
Sponsor    M. Marzian
Summary    Amend KRS 382.110 to require county clerks to provide handguns to each signatory to a recorded mortgage or deed.

Amendment    House Floor Amendment 15
Sponsor    L. Willner
Summary    Delete all sections of the bill in its entirety.

[WLJ]

Link to the bill
Has a complete list of the amendment they're trying to tack on.
Some of them as shown above are way out there in an attempt to derail the bill and others even require a permit for permit-less carry

https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/record/19RS/sb150.html#HFA1

[MechAg94]

I find myself conflicted about "free guns", but probably no better than anything else the Govt gives away for free.

[Perd Hapley]

I find myself conflicted about "free guns", but probably no better than anything else the Govt gives away for free.

Call it a stimulus plan.

[WLJ]

Call it a stimulus plan.

I think I'm going to send her a list of the guns I want  

[WLJ]

It pass the house.
Needs only to be signed.

[WLJ]

Gov has said he will be signing it.
Don't have an idea of when yet though

Bevin promises to sign bill eliminating permits for concealed carry
http://www.wave3.com/2019/03/02/bevin-promises-sign-bill-eliminating-permits-concealed-carry/

[Perd Hapley]

If this Wiki article is correct, Kentucky and Oklahoma would bring us to 16 states. That's nearly one third.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry

[230RN]

Kentucky Senate Passes Constitutional Carry Bill, Moms Demand Action OUTRAGED!
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2019/02/daniel-zimmerman/kentucky-senate-passes-constitutional-carry-bill-moms-demand-action-outraged/

Do these Moms realize they can now carry, thereby better protecting their kids?

Dumbass caterwauling dogpacking idiots.

I'm waiting for our Colorado Dems to really want something bad enough to trade votes on going "Constitutional Carry" for us...

Dem: "You vote for our traffic signal on every intersection for the children proposal and we'll vote for constitutional carry... in the spirit of compromise, of course."

Terry, 230RN

[Ben]

If this Wiki article is correct, Kentucky and Oklahoma would bring us to 16 states. That's nearly one third.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry

Glad to see the rise in numbers. Not sure why that article had the part 2 listed as (appeared to me) better than "status quo". For Montana, you'd just about want it the opposite for the potential of needing to defend yourself. For the other two states, you can even do that in California (in a locked container, but "locked container" is a pretty liberal definition).

[WLJ]

Apparently we're all going to shoot ourselves in the crotch now.

With concealed carry law, don't whine if you shoot yourself in the crotch
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/joseph-gerth/2019/03/04/kentucky-concealed-carry-law-add-gun-violence/3048630002/

[Perd Hapley]

Apparently we're all going to shoot ourselves in the crotch now.

With concealed carry law, don't whine if you shoot yourself in the crotch
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/joseph-gerth/2019/03/04/kentucky-concealed-carry-law-add-gun-violence/3048630002/

Every day, I take my permit out of my wallet, and give it an admiring look. It is, after all, what keeps me from shooting a hole in my business. Thank you, permit. Thank you.

[WLJ]

Gov. Bevin said Friday afternoon to Gray TV that he would sign the bill.

"It doesn't break new ground. It simply says that people do indeed have the right to keep and bear arms," said Gov Bevin. "... For those people who are offended at this idea and don't like it, there are other places in America where they could live."

https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Kentucky-House-passes-permitless-conceal-carry-bill-goes-to-governors-desk-506561551.html

[K Frame]

I was SO hoping that Republicans in Virginia would pass something like this when they were in charge. But, the Virginia Republican party was split between Republicans who believe in Constitutional rights and Northern Virginia Republicans who were for the most part Democrats with Rs after their names.

But, I'm pretty sure that we've lost that chance for quite a few years because the Dems are likely going to take back the whole mess in Virginia in the coming election.

Governor Black Face (HEY! It's gunpowder residue from my exercising my Second Amendment rights, because I BELIEVE in common sense gun laws!) Northam would veto a bill like that so fast that it wouldn't even be funny.

[230RN]

Apparently we're all going to shoot ourselves in the crotch now.

With concealed carry law, don't whine if you shoot yourself in the crotch
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/joseph-gerth/2019/03/04/kentucky-concealed-carry-law-add-gun-violence/3048630002/

Biased reporting much?  Shameful.

There was one point in the article that talked about how come concealed weapons came to be regulated (sample from the copyrighted article for educational purposes):

The state first prohibited carrying concealed weapons way back in 1813 when it passed a law forbidding “pocket pistols, dirks, large knives and sword canes,” according to the Register of the Kentucky Historical Society.

That law was later struck down by the Kentucky Court of Appeals, but in 1850, the new Kentucky Constitution gave the legislature authority to regulate concealed weapons. And in 1854, the legislature banned them.

This just illustrates my confirmed reluctance to tinker with Constitutions in general.  Any Constitution.  You never know what the heck they'll screw up in their self-righteous fervor to Do Good and Make Us Behave Like Good Little Children.

Terry, 230RN

[Boomhauer]

I do like the attitude of your governor.

[WLJ]

BTW: Here's some of the other amendments they tried to get tacked on SB150
Check out #19, The Barney Fife rule  

https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/record/19rs/sb150.html

Amendment    House Floor Amendment 16
Sponsor    M. Cantrell
Summary    Amend to require persons who carry concealed deadly weapons without a license to obtain liability insurance in the amount of $500,000.

Amendment    House Floor Amendment 18
Sponsor    M. Sorolis
Summary    Amend to limit to permitless concealed carry to Kentucky residents; require training in the use of firearms; require persons who carry concealed weapons to carry documentation of training; require persons who permitlessly concealed carry to successfully range fire a firearm at a target 11 of 20 times on a monthly basis.

Amendment    House Floor Amendment 19
Sponsor    J. Donohue
Summary    Amend to limit a person carrying a concealed firearm to a single cartridge of ammunition, and require people who violate that provision to attend a firearms safety course.

Amendment    House Floor Amendment 21
Sponsor    K. Hinkle
Summary    Amend to require a person carrying a concealed weapon to use a safety device.

[JN01]

Amendment    House Floor Amendment 21
Sponsor    K. Hinkle
Summary    Amend to require a person carrying a concealed weapon to use a safety device.

Would a motorcycle helmet or a fire extinguisher be OK?

[WLJ]

Would a motorcycle helmet or a fire extinguisher be OK?

Would a condom be considered a safely device?