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Heinz Mayochup
« on: March 06, 2019, 03:22:52 PM »
It seems Heinz Mayochup is not all it's cracked up to be -- or perhaps more, depending on your perspective.

https://www.businessinsider.com/heinz-mayochup-taste-test-review-2018-9

Article may be behind a paywall. I was somehow able to read it once, but now I can't bring it back. Anyhoo -- it seems that this "new " product isn't just a 50/50 mix of mayonnaise and ketchup, it also throws in some additional spices. It's also a bit firmer than a homemade mix of mayonnaise and ketchup. I'm glad I read this, because it removes any lingering curiosity that might have caused me to risk a few bucks to try a bottle of the stuff. I like the straight 50/50 mix (although I only use Hellman's mayonnaise, not the stuff Heinz tries to pass off as mayonnaise). I'm not interested in adulterating it with other, "secret" spices.

I also learned that Heinz is now introducing Mayocue (Mayonnaise + barbecue sauce) and Mayomust (Mayonnaise + mustard).

https://www.today.com/food/heinz-creates-new-new-mashup-condiments-mayocue-mayomust-t149823
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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2019, 03:24:59 PM »
No curiosity here.  My list of foods I won't eat is quite short, but mayo and miracle whip (they are the same thing to me) are barf-a-roni.

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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2019, 03:40:51 PM »
(although I only use Hellman's mayonnaise, not the stuff Heinz tries to pass off as mayonnaise).
It's Hellmanns or nothing for me

but mayo and miracle whip (they are the same thing to me)
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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2019, 06:01:51 PM »
509 moons on this planet and it never occured to me to mix mayo and ketchup.
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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2019, 08:49:14 PM »
If I want 2 common condiments on a sammich, I will add them individually. I will not purchase them premixed.
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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2019, 08:52:55 PM »
Out west it's called "fry sauce". It seems to be particularly prevalent the closer you get to Utah, which is where I think it originated. Different eateries will often have their own versions of it.

It's pretty similar to Thousand Island dressing, except for maybe with a thicker consistency and with a slightly different flavor profile, depending on what all you put in it.

I like it.* Pairs well with fish and chips.


*well, fry sauce, anyway. Never bothered to buy the Heinz stuff. If I want some I'll make my own.
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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2019, 09:12:08 PM »
From the NE here & I used to make it w/ chicken when the kids were small. Put horseradish in it for shrimp or relish for thousand island . Vary the basics for French or Russian. But I won't buy ANYTHING Heinz as it supports, in part, John Kerry.
Even changed the family ketchup.

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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2019, 12:44:52 AM »
It's Hellmanns or nothing for me
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Ditto.

"Mayomust."  Don't these guys recognize the significance of semantics?  Sounds like mayonnaise on old clothes that have been in the hamper too long.

I heard about mixing mayo and ketchup recently ("fry sauce" per Regolith), haven't actually tried it.  Will be Hellman's and some other brand of ketchup besides Heinz when I get around to it.

Rather than quote stuff from this, I'll just cite the link:

https://www.seriouseats.com/2012/10/taste-test-the-best-ketchup.html

I avoid Heinz like I avoid former liberal Presidential candidates.  >:D

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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2019, 09:48:40 AM »
From the NE here & I used to make it w/ chicken when the kids were small. Put horseradish in it for shrimp or relish for thousand island . Vary the basics for French or Russian. But I won't buy ANYTHING Heinz as it supports, in part, John Kerry.
Even changed the family ketchup.

Nice virtue signal.

Do you also avoid all other things that support John Kerry? Given that he has widely diversified investments, why aren't you sitting naked in a cave somewhere, drinking your own urine to maintain ideological purity?

You do realize that John Kerry/Teresa Heinz have absolutely nothing to do at all with the operations or direction of the Heinz corporation, right? That the money that Teresa Heinz gets comes from trusts that have been in operation for decades, far longer than Kerry has known Heinz?
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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2019, 11:12:15 AM »
Mike, the "virtue signaling" is important.  It's the same kind of picky BS the left is constantly using, and has been a mainstay of their propaganda effort.  They might be called  "second degree ad hominem attacks" and they are effective in the overall psychological strategy.

I don't eat ice cream, but if I did, it wouldn't be Ben 'n Jerry's.

And call me stupid, but I would not use "Progressive" car insurance simply because of the name.  Duh, me.

Now ain't I a good "deplorable?"  You can use all kinds of logic to argue against my position "logically," but the fact remains that what we denigrate as "virtue signaling" is a very effective propaganda device in the whole scheme of things and has little to do with logic.

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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2019, 11:35:09 AM »

You can use all kinds of logic to argue against my position "logically," but the fact remains that what we denigrate as "virtue signaling" is a very effective propaganda device in the whole scheme of things and has little to do with logic.


It's logical from their perspective. It works, so it's logical to continue doing it.
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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2019, 11:37:52 AM »
The (social) world doesn’t operate on logic.

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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2019, 03:45:45 PM »
I'm not calling you stupid. I'm questioning the rational of somehow Heinz products being barred because John Kerry, who has absolutely NO stake in running the company at all, married Teresa Heinz, who also has NO stake in running the company.

I'll repeat that... Neither John Kerry nor Teresa Heinz have any control of or say about the operations of Heinz foods.

John Kerry has never said "We make Proletariate Pickles for the masses!"

Teresa Heinz has never proclaimed "Our Communist Catsup makes Marx proud!"

Their faces aren't on every bottle of Revolutionary Relish that comes off the line.

That situation is VERY different from the Ben & Jerry's situation (or Paul Newman foods). That company was founded by two commie hippies who made progressive social issues front and center to their brand identity and marketing.

That's calmed down quite a bit since aging hippies sold the company to MegaFoodConglomorate (can't remember who bought it), but the B&J's  brand still espouses progressive/socialist ideals (to some degree) so it makes sense to boycott those products.

But to boycott a company just because a politician you don't like is now married to the widow of one of the heirs to part of the family fortune (FYI, John Heinz also NEVER had any control over Heinz foods. Family control passed to a corporate board and out of the family about 2 generations before he was born).

Yeah, that's not just virtue signaling, that's virtual signaling failure 101.



But, I suppose that if someday you find yourself in need of, say, a medical device or a drug to save your life, you'll do your homework first and make absolutely certain that the maker of that product in no way supports John Kerry, right?

And if you DO find out that Kerry owns even 1 share of that company's stock, you'll do the honorable thing and go to your grave unsullied, right?
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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2019, 03:47:57 PM »
Oh, and just FYI, I would NEVER attempt to use logic to argue against your position.

Why waste good logic on the most illogical ideological claptrap I've ever heard of?  :facepalm:
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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2019, 04:02:49 PM »
I think logic is important. For instance, you could logically note that Heinz-Kerry sold her remaining stock (1%, down from 4% when Kerry was running - still a pretty substantial quantity) back in 2013. Of course that was the time when it was sold to Buffet, soooo ...

Oh yeah, then it merged with Kraft in 2015.

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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2019, 05:10:19 PM »
Sometimes the value of a brand can be damaged so badly that it cannot be recovered.

Brands are symbols, symbols are important.

I’m ok with folks boycotting brands.

Someone mentioned Ben and Jerry’s. Those hippies pissed me off and I want nothing to do with that brand, regardless of who owns it.

The threat of permanent damage to the brand needs to hang in the air as a perpetual threat.



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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2019, 05:19:51 PM »
Oh, and just FYI, I would NEVER attempt to use logic to argue against your position.

Why waste good logic on the most illogical ideological claptrap I've ever heard of?  :facepalm:

When you get all done foaming at the mouth, Mike, think about how effective this claptrap is coming from the other side.

We are in a propaganda war, not a logic war.

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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2019, 11:40:40 PM »
So, in other words, you're saying that you now take your personal playbook from the left.

In other words, you're basing your failure on their failure, and somehow are coming to the conclusion that you're winning...

Ok, then.
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Re: Heinz Mayochup
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2019, 01:49:59 AM »
Don't put words in my mouth.  Several people on this board do that habitually.  Just remember, we're in a psychological war, not a logical war.  You can think whatever you want, but I would not buy Ben and Jerry's ice cream and I won't buy Progressive insurance.

That's my itty bitty contribution to that war.

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