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Re: The NYT discovers black gun owners
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2019, 11:21:58 AM »
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My response to seeing the sticker was strong. I am an African-American historian and, on the matter of guns and most other political issues, decidedly liberal. To me, the pairing of Lewis Hayden and the N.R.A. felt like an affront. I knew for certain that Hayden fought for the right to be free from violent repression by white citizens wielding the weapons of guns, capital and political influence. I knew that he lost his family through a cruel, extractive system that reinforced — in fact, depended on — the ability of whites to inflict violence on the bodies of black people without legal repercussion.

The author is not much of a historian if they can't figure out that gun control was primarily meant for disarming blacks and other ethnicities of the underclass.
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Re: The NYT discovers black gun owners
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2019, 11:30:09 AM »
The author is not much of a historian if they can't figure out that gun control was primarily meant for disarming blacks and other ethnicities of the underclass.

And it pretty much still is.

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Re: The NYT discovers black gun owners
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2019, 11:32:04 AM »
From one of the comments in the article (paraphrased by me): If you want to see serious gun control laws in this country, start having young black males open carry everywhere.
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Re: The NYT discovers black gun owners
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2019, 12:30:08 PM »
I need to take time to read more of the comments.  The first few I saw look pretty good.

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Re: The NYT discovers black gun owners
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2019, 12:38:21 PM »
Seeing some more comments, it seems many anti-gunners have this fantasy that the Govt will ban guns and they will be no more.  They fail to see that guns aren't going anywhere, nor do they see that there are plenty of other weapons that can be used.  The root of violence is not in the weapon.
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Re: The NYT discovers black gun owners
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2019, 12:42:47 PM »
Seeing some more comments, it seems many anti-gunners have this fantasy that the Govt will ban guns and they will be no more.  They fail to see that guns aren't going anywhere, nor do they see that there are plenty of other weapons that can be used.  The root of violence is not in the weapon.

We all know that violence was basically unknown before guns were invented.
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Re: The NYT discovers black gun owners
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2019, 03:53:54 PM »
From one of the comments in the article (paraphrased by me): If you want to see serious gun control laws in this country, start having young black males open carry everywhere.


I thought we "but muh guns" conservatives were all afraid of black people anyway, even if they're only armed with a Bible, and on their way to church. After all, the NRA has carefully inserted "except black people" in all those crazy concealed carry permit laws, right?
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Re: The NYT discovers black gun owners
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2019, 12:56:56 PM »
From one of the comments in the article (paraphrased by me): If you want to see serious gun control laws in this country, start having young black males open carry everywhere.

I prefer that they carry concealed.
OCing is for uniformed police and neckbeards.
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Re: The NYT discovers black gun owners
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2019, 11:53:40 PM »
I prefer that they carry concealed.
OCing is for uniformed police and neckbeards.
As long as they are civil, I don't really care how they carry their hardware. 
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Re: The NYT discovers black gun owners
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2019, 10:02:19 AM »
So are guns suddenly good now?
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Re: The NYT discovers black gun owners
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2019, 11:46:25 AM »
As long as they are civil, I don't really care how they carry their hardware. 

True, but whenever we hear about OCing in the news, its some manchild hanging out at starbucks with his AR.
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Re: The NYT discovers black gun owners
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2019, 11:56:13 AM »
So are guns suddenly good now?

Silly right wing bitter clinger, it's to expose those that have left the plantation.
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Re: The NYT discovers black gun owners
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2019, 12:54:28 PM »
True, but whenever we hear about OCing in the news, its some manchild hanging out at starbucks with his AR.

You think they are going to ever report on regular everyday people who open carry and nothing at all happens?
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