Mosque shooting in New Zealand

[WLJ]

This is one mixed up POS
He's all over the map

New Zealand Shooter Hopes for U.S. Civil War: ‘Conservatism Is Dead, Thank God’
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/03/15/new-zealand-shooter-hopes-for-u-s-civil-war-conservatism-is-dead-thank-god/

[brimic]

This is where I saw it

That looks like "We Wuz Vikangz and sheit"

[Ben]

This was one mixed up POS
He's all over the map

New Zealand Shooter Hopes for U.S. Civil War: ‘Conservatism Is Dead, Thank God’
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2019/03/15/new-zealand-shooter-hopes-for-u-s-civil-war-conservatism-is-dead-thank-god/

From the article:

While the shooter lists a number of highly lethal methods he might have used to carry out the act of terrorism, he states that he chose firearms “for the effect it would have on social discourse, the extra media coverage they would provide and the effect it would have on the politics of the United States and thereby the political situation of the world.”

“With enough pressure the left wing within the United States will seek to abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the U.S. will see this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty. The attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing of the U.S. along cultural and racial lines.”

[WLJ]

Guess who

    (“Thoughts and prayers” is reference to the NRA’s phrase used to deflect conversation away from policy change during tragedies. Not directed to PM Ardern, who I greatly admire.)

    — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) March 15, 2019

[Pb]

I wish the media would stop giving these sick people the attention.  

NZ is not Australia.  No gun is banned in NZ.  However, they are very strict in giving gun permits (police visit your home, etc).  Some gun collectors even have full auto.

That being said, I bet NZ guns owners are now going to get screwed.

[BobR]

I wish the media would stop giving these sick people the attention.  

NZ is not Australia.  No gun is banned in NZ.  However, they are very strict in giving gun permits (police visit your home, etc).  Some gun collectors even have full auto.

That being said, I bet NZ guns owners are now going to get screwed.

Yep, I have a feeling their guns will join all of the Australian guns that got turned in to be made into scrap.

bob

[TommyGunn]

Full text, for now.

I read two pages and stopped. Going into the mind of a mass murderer isn’t on my agenda this morning.

https://propertarianism.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/The-Great-Replacement.pdf

He most respects the People's Republic of China,   and considers himself a Fascist.   Likes Trump because he thinks he's white nationalistic but does not like Trump's policies.

The guy is a  NUT.

[freakazoid]

So they're calling this guy a white supremacist, but I went to WLJ's link, and the below is the cover page of the guy's maifesto. Worker's rights, anti-imperialism, and environmentalism sound more socialist to me. Of course Australian white supremacists may be a different animal than US white supremacists.

I believe that circle spiral symbol is a specific Nazi symbol.

[DittoHead]

I'm too old to understand most of the 4chan stuff, but I think the big picture of a lot of that manifesto being "bait" is correct.

But this manifesto is a trap itself, laid for journalists searching for the meaning behind this horrific crime. There is truth in there, and valuable clues to the shooter’s radicalization, but it is buried beneath a great deal of, for lack of a better word, “shitposting”.

[Ben]

It appears that an armed person at the other Mosque stopped the second shooting:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2019/03/15/true-hero-armed-muslim-man-reportedly-chased-and-fired-at-christchurch-shooters/

[Sindawe]

I believe that circle spiral symbol is a specific Nazi symbol.

Best I can find as well is that the symbol originates from that era in the Obergruppenführer-hall in the north tower of Wewelsburg castle.  This nutter also put an Odel rune on one of his weapons, as well as having dog tag shaped pendents with the solar cross and slavic sun wheel inscribed.

I suspect this will inspire leftists & SJWs to push Amazon to halt display and sales of all like & related images, just as they did with the book co-authored by Tommy Robinson. 

[WLJ]

Things that make you go Hmmm

'Something happened during his travels': The boy who turned into a Muslim-hating mass killer and murdered 49 in New Zealand after his dad died of cancer and he left Australia to travel the world including North Korea and Pakistan
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6812527/Inside-life-New-Zealands-worst-terrorist.html

In a previous Facebook message about a trip to Pakistan on Facebook, he wrote: 'an incredible place filled with the most earnest, kindhearted and hospitable people in the world,' The Sydney Morning Herald reported.  

'The beauty of hunza and nagar valley in autumn cannot be beat,' he stated.  

[WLJ]

The self-proclaimed racist believed to have killed 49 people at a New Zealand mosque during Friday prayers apparently opened fire with rifles covered in white-supremacist graffiti and listened to a song glorifying a Bosnian Serb war criminal

[WLJ]

More it's Trump's fault

Dem Sen. Blumenthal Claims President Trump's Rhetoric Was a 'Factor' in Mosque Shootings
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/laurettabrown/2019/03/15/dem-sen-blumenthal-claims-new-zealand-shooting-is-related-to-president-trumps-rhetoric-n2543180

[lee n. field]

I believe that circle spiral symbol is a specific Nazi symbol.

Yep.  Black sun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(symbol)

[Ron]

It’s odd how humans default to herd behavior, or every man for himself as a strategy to save themselves individually.

Instead of 60+ people in the mosque rushing the shooter and stomping him to death they run to escape. It seems to be how we are wired or at least conditioned. It’s normal behavior.

There is a big difference between attacking a pen of rabbits versus attacking a pen containing a pack of wolves.

If the story of the sheepdog gunman stopping a worse massacre from happening at the other location is true, it probably won’t change anyone’s mind that already didn’t have the innate wolf mindset waiting to be triggered.

[BobR]

It’s odd how humans default to herd behavior, or every man for himself as a strategy to save themselves individually.

Instead of 60+ people in the mosque rushing the shooter and stomping him to death they run to escape. It seems to be how we are wired or at least conditioned. It’s normal behavior.

There is a big difference between attacking a pen of rabbits versus attacking a pen containing a pack of wolves.

If the story of the sheepdog gunman stopping a worse massacre from happening at the other location is true, it probably won’t change anyone’s mind that already didn’t have the innate wolf mindset waiting to be triggered.

As more stuff comes out I have noticed that there were a few people ready to step up, one guy tackled the gunman, took away his weapon and started chasing him but didn't fire because he couldn't find the trigger. In the places I read eyewitness accounts where the people crawled under chairs or tables and hope to Allah they weren't seen. There were also people shot while running away. The human mindset has become one of cowering and waiting among the majority where there are a few who will run to danger. The run to danger human is becoming more and more rare as we slide down the path of the feminization of society as a whole. My 2 Bolivars worth, which we know is not worth a single sheet of TP.

bob

[French G.]

The writing I've been seeing on their gear some of it looks Cyrillic  to me

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Victims of islamists I assume.

[BobR]

Victims of islamists I assume.

That is kind of strange, Dmitry Senyavin was a Napoleonic War Russian Admiral. One of their greatest seaman from what I remember. I guess it is coming out he had other historical figure's names on his gear. I think people say NUT may be on to something.

bob

[Viking]

Shotgun



Not sure what this is, maybe an AR? I think I see the charging handle

NZ legal AR-15. Semi auto rifles and shotguns can be in either category A or E . The difference is in the type of stock, legal mag capacity for removable mags, and whether flash hiders are allowed. This is a Category A rifle. Thumbhole, kind of, stock. Although the mags are possibly not legal to use with the weapon.

[Andiron]

Guy is nuts. 

The manifesto is just pages of trolling,  far as I can tell.  Hence the Candace Owens comments.

[Fly320s]

Don't be too harsh on the people who run away.  A sudden, intense, violent attack like that is hard to counter, even for trained people.

[Ron]

Don't be too harsh on the people who run away.  A sudden, intense, violent attack like that is hard to counter, even for trained people.

I agree.

Most folks have to be trained to react differently.

Some though are wired to run to engage the danger, thank God for them.

[Angel Eyes]

No surprise here:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/15/asia/new-zealand-gun-control-intl/index.html

"I can tell you one thing right now: our gun laws will change."

[WLJ]

Never let a serious crisis go to waste