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« on: March 19, 2019, 02:55:58 PM »

https://komonews.com/news/local/komo-news-special-seattle-is-dying?fbclid=IwAR0hD4fxAjdbY0epXBF15rg83M0cOXlOhf66F-QvKcc9ebYph20GY-8a50M

I stopped working in downtown Seattle in 2004 and went back downtown in 2018.  Back in the early 2000's, you saw homeless people, but the majority of them were floridly mentally ill and there were virtually no encampments.  Now, 14 years later, you see encampments with huge numbers of homeless people and a substantial percentage of them are addicted to opiates.  Piles of feces and discarded syringes litter the streets. I see this every day as I walk from the transit center to my office. 
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« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2019, 03:00:44 PM »

Today's lesson is brought to you by the letter "S" as in Shithole, Seattle and San Francisco. Nothing new in the realm of large west coast cities where it doesn't get cold enough in the winter to drive the homeless south. We are even starting to see an larger homeless population doing many of the same things in our little town of Spokane.

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2019, 03:08:40 PM »

Today's lesson is brought to you by the letter "S" as in Shithole, Seattle and San Francisco.

San Francisco, over a year ago:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGpEkS8XNxE
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2019, 04:10:04 PM »

I am a big believer in personal autonomy, and I think forced intervention should be a very last resort.  I believe people have the right to make poor choices that I would not make.  Yet when I see people tortured by mental illness or addiction screaming in the street, and knowing they have a very high rate of death due to exposure, illness, or assault, are we failing them as a society by leaving them be?
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2019, 04:36:17 PM »

I am a big believer in personal autonomy, and I think forced intervention should be a very last resort.  I believe people have the right to make poor choices that I would not make.  Yet when I see people tortured by mental illness or addiction screaming in the street, and knowing they have a very high rate of death due to exposure, illness, or assault, are we failing them as a society by leaving them be?
I used to know all the answers but it seems I've forgotten some.

There are some people with too little intelligence, who lack sufficient impulse control, or who are too mentally ill to be capable of surviving on their own.  I don't know that anyone has ever come up with a solution I like. 
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2019, 06:13:29 PM »

Are they really leaving them be?  Seems to me they are getting all sorts of help in maintaining their homeless "life".  Someone is supplying food and needles.  They are getting drugs somewhere.  The city is allowing them to stay and ignoring the drug use.  Actually leaving them alone completely might be an improvement.  At least it would force a change.
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2019, 03:03:34 AM »

I take great umbrage with that story.

Seattle isn't dying.

Seattle is being MURDERED.

Murdered by liberal antipathy, ludicrous policies, inaction, socialist mantras, and continuation of policies that have a long track record of abject failure.
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2019, 03:55:56 AM »

Spent 4 days at my corporate headquarters and got the chance to explore the city a little bit.

Pretty easy to get around, nice touristy stuff to visit.

Yea, a lot of what used to be called bums along with the smell of urine surprisingly frequently.

Itĺs a shame, the liberal city policies actually encourage the behavior they claim to be addressing.
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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2019, 05:01:00 AM »

I visited Seattle once some years back.  The day we flew in was clear and sunny.  The city was beautiful.  The next 3 days it was foggy, overcast, and drizzling rain off and on.  There was still a lot of do around the downtown water front area.  We did not go around the city too much.
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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2019, 05:36:49 AM »

1983 was the last time I was in Seattle. I drank a lot of beer that weekend. Don't remember much about it.  grin Grumpy Old Man
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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2019, 06:03:05 AM »

Mayor Fischer looked at Seattle and San Francisco, he even stated he wanted to copy the San Fran model, and decided since it's working so well for them that Louisville needs to be a homeless sanctuary. Homeless everywhere now. His solution to that? More bike lanes that nobody uses. POS needs to go.
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2019, 04:36:58 PM »

The .gov managed tanks and cav to chase off starving Vets in 1932 but can't see off this trash?  Next thing you're going to tell me is they don't actually police the borders anymore..
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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2019, 08:08:30 PM »

Next thing you're going to tell me is they don't actually police the borders anymore..


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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2019, 07:18:08 AM »

A related followup article: https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-homeless-crisis-historic-cemetery-overrun-with-drugs-and-prostitution-amid-worsening-problem
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